Kirk over the edge (again, and again, and again...)

[AJBryant]

Something struck me about the film.

This was a hindsight realization, as I went over what I had seen.

Is it my imagination, or is Kirk destined to spend his whole life hanging by his fingernails over an abyss of some sort?

It's such a cliche, but there it was.

He almost fell into the Grand Canyon -- so there he was pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

He almost fell back into that hole in the ice -- so there he was pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

He almost fell off the mine's zapping platform -- so there he was pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

He almost fell off one of those walkways on the Narada -- so there he was pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

Had he beamed down to Vulcan with Spock, Amanda still would have died, but Kirk would have been there pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

Good God, Abrams. Do you not have any more original ways to threaten Kirk than that?

How many times (and in what different ways?) will we see the same cliche in the next film, I wonder?



Tony

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

It wasn't the Grand Canyon. It was a quarry in Iowa.

 

[Jeri]

Yep; James T. Kirk is made of cliffhangers.

 

[urbandk]

Yep; James T. Kirk is made of cliffhangers.

 

[Hennessy Badger]

Yeah, I imagine he was hanging into the edge of the Enterprise-B before being sucked into space in Generations.

 

[erebus]

Actually i quite liked that motif and i think it was a clever way of evoking Kirk's character: he's the guy who always goes for the edge, testing it, fearless and full-throttle for the insight.. then he hangs on with grim determination and NEVER gives up until he has won.

In his misdirectional youth this make-or-break attitude was for thrill, in his constructive years it led to daring compassion and finding increasingly innovative ways of getting out of trouble and serving federation and his crew.

Like he said once: 'risk is our business, its what this starship is all about, its why we're aboard her'.

 

[Jeri]

Actually i quite liked that motif and i think it was a clever way of evoking Kirk's character: he's the guy who always goes for the edge...

That was poetry; thanks!

 

[AJBryant]

Actually i quite liked that motif and i think it was a clever way of evoking Kirk's character.

Y'know, I kinda like that. But there comes a point when it becomes Too Much, no?

 

[TheMadCloner]

Yeah, I imagine he was hanging into the edge of the Enterprise-B before being sucked into space in Generations.

He never got sucked into space. He was pulled into the Nexus.

He was, however, hanging onto the bridge on Veridian before it fell into the canyon.

 

[MvRojo]

I guess they wanted to emphasize that Kirk has excellent upper body strength.

 

[Dale]

I was waiting for the Romulan on the drilling platform to say "I...have had... enough of YOU!"

 

[Jeri]

O.M.G., Dale! Good times.

 

[pookha]

Actually i quite liked that motif and i think it was a clever way of evoking Kirk's character: he's the guy who always goes for the edge, testing it, fearless and full-throttle for the insight.. then he hangs on with grim determination and NEVER gives up until he has won.

In his misdirectional youth this make-or-break attitude was for thrill, in his constructive years it led to daring compassion and finding increasingly innovative ways of getting out of trouble and serving federation and his crew.

Like he said once: 'risk is our business, its what this starship is all about, its why we're aboard her'.

yeah i kinda saw it that way but it is also how things seemed to happen in kirk was near something to fall into..
where no man goes into the grave..
hanging on a ledge in what are little girls made of..


they fall through the floor in catspaw

kirk and spock will later climb back through that hole.
and of course the seach for spock...

works both as allegory and as inside joke among fans.

 

[roguephoenix]

Something struck me about the film.

This was a hindsight realization, as I went over what I had seen.

Is it my imagination, or is Kirk destined to spend his whole life hanging by his fingernails over an abyss of some sort?

It's such a cliche, but there it was.

He almost fell into the Grand Canyon -- so there he was pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

He almost fell back into that hole in the ice -- so there he was pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

He almost fell off the mine's zapping platform -- so there he was pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

He almost fell off one of those walkways on the Narada -- so there he was pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

Had he beamed down to Vulcan with Spock, Amanda still would have died, but Kirk would have been there pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

Good God, Abrams. Do you not have any more original ways to threaten Kirk than that?

How many times (and in what different ways?) will we see the same cliche in the next film, I wonder?



Tony

also, he got beaten up so many many times by a lot of diff preople lol.

 

[Alex1939]

He was, however, hanging onto the bridge on Veridian before it fell into the canyon.

Funny I never thought about that. He almost dies as a kid in this movie falling off a cliff... and he dies in the original timeline by falling off a cliff (bridge).

I'm sure that wasn't intentional, but still neat now that I briefly thought about it.

 

[T'Paul]

Something struck me about the film.

This was a hindsight realization, as I went over what I had seen.

Is it my imagination, or is Kirk destined to spend his whole life hanging by his fingernails over an abyss of some sort?

It's such a cliche, but there it was.

He almost fell into the Grand Canyon -- so there he was pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

He almost fell back into that hole in the ice -- so there he was pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

He almost fell off the mine's zapping platform -- so there he was pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

He almost fell off one of those walkways on the Narada -- so there he was pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

Had he beamed down to Vulcan with Spock, Amanda still would have died, but Kirk would have been there pulling himself up over the edge by his fingers.

Good God, Abrams. Do you not have any more original ways to threaten Kirk than that?

How many times (and in what different ways?) will we see the same cliche in the next film, I wonder?



Tony

also, he got beaten up so many many times by a lot of diff preople lol.

Cupcake, Romulan on drill, Spock, Romulans on Narada. Am I missing anyone?

 

[T'Paul]

He was, however, hanging onto the bridge on Veridian before it fell into the canyon.

Funny I never thought about that. He almost dies as a kid in this movie falling off a cliff... and he dies in the original timeline by falling off a cliff (bridge).

I'm sure that wasn't intentional, but still neat now that I briefly thought about it.

Not in this timeline...

 

[Tentacle]

the whole movie was based on cliches of characters

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

the whole movie was based on cliches of characters

Yeah. Like heroes and villains. Geez.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

the whole movie was based on cliches of characters

Yeah. Like heroes and villains. Geez.