Keep Trek off TV

[SG-17]

I agree. For the next few years, keep Star Trek off basic cable, & reserve it for the more expensive specialty pay-channels & fan productions on YouTube. Keep it to sites like TrekBBS, Fan Fiction.Net & Trek Writers' Guild online, encourage fan-made flash games & other "Bridge Commander", "Bridge Builder", "Starship Creator: Warp III" style games, & the graphic novels, etc.

Agreed. Any new Trek should be shown new on the network dedicated to Science Fiction, Sci-Fi. Despite their habit of canceling shows in their prime *cough*SGA*cough*, I bet it CBS/Paramount paid them enough, or got the series more public attention than SGA has it would last a good 10 seasons.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Movies and TV are good at different things and those things tell you what franchises best fit which medium.

Movies are for visual/visceral thrill rides. Star Wars, which is emotional and visceral, is best in movies.

TV shows are for character, plot and thematic development - in short, ideas. Star Trek, which is about ideas, is best on TV.

Star Trek can work in movies, but only as an adjunct to TV. You can't do much in two hours that really does justice to Star Trek. With Star Wars, doing more than a couple hours can get tiresome. Ideas need time to develop, but roller coaster rides wear out their welcome fast. Star Trek certainly has more going for it than being a mere two-hour roller coaster ride. Don't sell it so short.

Any new Trek should be shown new on the network dedicated to Science Fiction, Sci-Fi.

Ugh. Skiffy doesn't deserve Star Trek!

 

[SG-17]

Next to its original programming(SG, SAN, GH, DT), re-runs of TNG and ENT are the most popular show on the network.

 

[AviTrek]

Next to its original programming(SG, SAN, GH, DT), re-runs of TNG and ENT are the most popular show on the network.

And even their top rated programs don't have the ratings ENT did. SciFi just doesn't have the viewership to be able to support a show with the production costs of Star Trek.

 

[SG-17]

If they used Green-screen sets like Sanctuary they would cut down on production cuts by a large margin.

 

[Falcor5]

I'd like to see a Trek RPG something like Final Fantasy, but I don't think anyone else wants that.

I would play it for sure!

 

[ATimson]

Yeah, imagine if Paramount/CBS decides to do a 25th century trek series, and TPTB forces the producers for the next Abrams-movie to simply redress the post-TNG set, except for the bridge, for the TOS-era movie

It happened with TFF and TUC, though the later TNG films had completely new sets for the ENT-E.

The ENT-E sets weren't completely new; the sickbay was a redress of Voyager's (except for Nemesis, because the set had been destroyed at that point), and I believe that the quarters were also redresses of Voyager sets.

Meanwhile, it's only fair that TFF/TUC got back the corridor sets that TNG stole.

 

[ATimson]

And even their top rated programs don't have the ratings ENT did. SciFi just doesn't have the viewership to be able to support a show with the production costs of Star Trek.

Or alternately, Star Trek is overbudgeted for what it needs. Stargate produces Trek-quality output week-in, week-out. Yes, they cheated some by filming in Canada. But they show that it can be done; Bermaga were simply unwilling to buckle down and control costs to the extent that the 'gate producers have.

 

[AviTrek]

And even their top rated programs don't have the ratings ENT did. SciFi just doesn't have the viewership to be able to support a show with the production costs of Star Trek.

Or alternately, Star Trek is overbudgeted for what it needs. Stargate produces Trek-quality output week-in, week-out. Yes, they cheated some by filming in Canada. But they show that it can be done; Bermaga were simply unwilling to buckle down and control costs to the extent that the 'gate producers have.

Stargate visits alien worlds that all look like pacific northwest forests and have humans living on them. Star Trek was made fun of because of the forehead aliens, but at least they made an effort to make people look quasi alien. And their alien settings were much more alien than Stargates forests.

Both of those problems are somewhat justified in Stargate because of the premise, but unless you want the next Star Trek show to be about visiting all the Canadian space colonies, a show seeking out new life and new civilization can not be done on a Stargate type budget.

 

[Unicron]

I look forward to seeing the Canadian space colonies.

 

[ChristopherPike]

For me, Star Trek on the big-screen will always be in addition to its rightful place on television. I like my ongoing story arcs (experimented with on TNG, perfected by DS9 and revived with later ENT). It's never been about $$$$$ visuals but visiting characters who feel like family week after week. Waiting several years at a time to catch up, frankly isn't good enough... So I can't agree. But then unlike so many posters here, I haven't moved on to shows like Heroes or Lost... I only want Star Trek. Everything else is a poor substitute.

 

[TEH BABA]

BSG uses different film lense for each planet. It seems to work i think they need t o try that in a new trek series. Otherwise it will feel like same NC location.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I'd be willing to bet on an animated Trek production, for TV, in the next five years - quite probably a variation of TNG.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

I'd be willing to bet on an animated Trek production, for TV, in the next five years - quite probably a variation of TNG.

yuck. hopefully its not like Lucas' abomination on Friday nights on CN

 

[Electric Coleslaw]

Trek on TV didn't fail because of oversaturation. It failed because the last two series and the last two movies sucked. The reasons behind them sucking had nothing to do with oversaturation but with shitty writing, casting and execution.

Trek started off as a TV show and I would rather it stayed that way for the future. I don't mind movies as a sort of bonus episode on a grander scale but bring back the series. That way you get 22 hours each year instead of only 2 hours every other year at best.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Or alternately, Star Trek is overbudgeted for what it needs. Stargate produces Trek-quality output week-in, week-out. Yes, they cheated some by filming in Canada. But they show that it can be done; Bermaga were simply unwilling to buckle down and control costs to the extent that the 'gate producers have.

This is a very good point (and it wouldn't have been simply the producers of the show who decided where it would film. They didn't own the property).

To do live-action "Star Trek" for television, they ought to produce it in Vancouver and run it on the SCIFI Channel. That's the best plan by far.

There's nothing important about "Star Trek" that would be beyond the production capabilities of the folks who put together the "Stargate" series or nuBSG.