Jodies Series is available to pre-order on Amazon

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by Pindar, Jul 10, 2018.

  1. Steven P Bastien

    Steven P Bastien Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I am very sorry about that. You have to act in some way in response to that, I'm sure. You have to fight or protect yourself or some other thing which you know and I don't.

    So, no one here knows anything about me, but make assumptions. But this isn't about me. Read the article. It's about that guy who was big enough not to hate, when he should have, and that made a big difference. I understand that not everyone could do that, and I don't claim that I necessarily would or could either. But, don't many religions try to teach an idea similar to what that man did? Is it so crazy for me to make a point along those lines?
     
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  2. Shatinator

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    Just a question here: Why are these comments being spread with such wide brushes. As though the only color palette that can be seen are black and white and that the world has no grey's in it?
     
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  3. Jinn

    Jinn Mistress of the Chaotic Energies Rear Admiral

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    This reminds me of that time in the middle ages when the bishops' conference in Slovakia came to the conclusion that gay marriage would lead to legal and societal confusion. Oh, nevermind that was earlier this month.
     
  4. Cancel Culture

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    It takes a special kind of arrogance to tell other people how they should feel. Better probably to keep it limited to how they should act, at which point people will agree or disagree. But I'm going to stop short of telling you what I think you should do, and merely remark on the presumption of what you're doing.
     
  5. Steven P Bastien

    Steven P Bastien Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Just food for thought for anyone who is interested.

    https://www.thefire.org/jewish-author-makes-case-for-befriending-neo-nazis/
    I'm sorry but I don't feel that is quite fair. i"m not telling others how to feel. Read what I said.

    I said, "bigotry should be fought hard". This is action not feeling and I doubt anyone was disagreeing with that.

    I said, "bigots need not be hated". I didn't say they should not be hated. I'm offering another possibility not stipulating one.

    I did say, "ignorance should be pitied". If this is viewed as "telling how you should feel" then I'm sorry as I misspoke. I'm simply trying to make the point that most bigotry comes from ignorance. I do believe ignorance is something to be pitied, but I am not trying to tell others to feel this way.

    Anyway, my point was totally missed. Sorry to upset so many people.
     
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  6. Jinn

    Jinn Mistress of the Chaotic Energies Rear Admiral

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    Well, I don't think that saying "you don't need to hate bigots" as a statement will convince anyone of doing so, which is kinda funny because your point about how one can do a better job at convincing other people wasn't made that well and ended up not convincing the other people in the thread.

    I'd probably have said something along the lines of "if you meet a bigot IRL it's probably best not to show them how deeply you rightfully hate them and try to make your argument as best as possible until they (hopefully) change their mind. Or in other words, fake it until you make it."
     
  7. Steven P Bastien

    Steven P Bastien Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    OK, guilty of not communicating well. I did provide two references that can be read, if anyone is interested.
     
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  8. Solariabsg25

    Solariabsg25 Commodore Commodore

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    His "friends in high places" probably don't remember anything about the Twin Dilemma which let's face it is frigging Shakespeare compared to some other stories - yeah I'm looking at you Time-Flight!

    And yes I've pre-ordered Jodie's series.
     
  9. Marc

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    Seems some stuff recently were levine talks about his role as "continuity advisor" during the JNT years.

    The guy is full of himself.