Jodie is back for next year.

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by Pindar, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:49 PM.

  1. Pindar

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  2. Gov Kodos

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    Great news but I'm sure someone is writing some kind of 'The BBC had to bring Jodie back so they could stay on their feminist agenda' post somewhere by now.
     
  3. The Scrooge Doctor

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    Shocking...only for those who had axes to grind against her casting and those who actually believed the rumor.
     
  4. Starkers

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    She was always going to come back. Even if the numbers hadn't been good I don't think the BBC would ever pull the plug quite that quickly on a Doctor, irrespective of her being the first female Doctor.
     
  5. Wereghost

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    Good news. Hopefully the fan speculation about staff changes will die down for another year or so.

    And hopefully, with scripts for season two being written with Whittaker in mind from the off, they’ll have a little more bite than what we’ve seen so far; otherwise there’s a danger of this era ending up feeling like a pale imitation of early NuWho.
     
  6. Pindar

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    Based on this first year the fewer scripts by Chibnall the better for me.
     
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  7. The Scrooge Doctor

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    Yeah, I agree with this. I've enjoyed all of his episodes but he definitely he needs to write less and let other people have more opportunities, especially with a smaller episode count.
     
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  8. Ar-Pharazon

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    Is it his writing, or is it his showrunning that messes up the writing? Could go either way I reckon.
     
  9. The Scrooge Doctor

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    More than anything else, I think he's stretching himself out a little too thinly.
     
  10. Kibbin

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    Doesn't say much as the current rumour was that they were going at the end of next year. In fact I can see some people using this as proof the rumours of both of them leaving due to back stage meddling. I'm not saying that but it doesn't allay any of the major worries of the franchise atm
     
  11. Relayer1

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    The BBC had to bring Jodie back so they could stay on their feminist agenda.

    :whistle:
     
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  12. BritishSeaPower

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    ::Patiently waits for all the “only 6 episodes,” “split season,” “gap year” hubbub.::

    Very good! Now if we can just get fewer Chibnall episodes and some more new voices in, we should be set.
     
  13. Brandy Butters

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    Good. It takes a while for a new doctor to bed in. I hope she sticks around.
     
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    It was never in doubt, but also...
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  15. publiusr

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    As a whole--this season has been solid.
     
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    I'd another news item pop in my feed today; no new WHO in 2019. In which case, audience momentum is not going to be kept up. The show's lost half its newfound viewers since nearly 10 weeks ago. If Capaldi and Smith

    https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/12/07/no-doctor-who-series-12-in-2019/
    https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/12/07/doctorwho-series12-whittaker-returning/
    (they mention the series opener ratings but steered clear of the ratings plummet, possibly because there's one reason hyped up more and unfairly so than any other.)

    Which may be for the best. Most of series 11 has been so flat and stale that "Black Orchid" comes across as tension-filled by comparison. There is no reason for this series to be less than the sum of its parts. Nobody's asking for 10 consecutive episodes on par with "Blink" or "World Enough and Time". Nobody expected (so far, 9 of) 10 episodes on par with watching a pitcher of water evaporate. I hope the finale ties up enough loose ends and is more exciting than what the teaser's suggesting.

    Unfortunately, Graham's probably going to die in some melodramatic shtick and Ryan gets his original father in the new year special for the obvious tie-in with the holiday.)

    But series 12... number of stories possibly being cut down (a la a split year), Chibnall saying he's out of ideas (and he's had only 10 episodes in his era so far, look at the number of producers prior to him that have belted out far more and when "Black Orchid" ends up being more exciting, there's a problem...) that new TARDIS interior looked expensive but it's barely been shown since the third episode or so - can't imagine why... scripts not living up to their potential (or relying on viewers to be their own emperor when being awed by the wardrobe), etc.
     
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    So had Moffat but he had to deal with more episodes per season, and even "Oxygen" despite its tact on par with a jackhammer had greater sense of threat than all of Chibnall's aired episodes to date. The finale might be the exception.

    Chibnall's had a fair amount of good ideas, but "The Ghost Machine" needed a couple major rewrites. Three if we include the sonic magic wand dumbing down both the show and the audience. Try to get some toddler to watch classic WHO and all it will do is scream "Where's the sonic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" out of Pavlovian response...



    Showrunning taking more time to set up that his scripts get caught in the proverbial crossfire. It's not an easy job but the show desperately needs a script editor and not the alleged ensemble group of people in a writer's room that all managed to put out mostly bland oatmeal for the audience to digest.
     
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  18. BritishSeaPower

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    Honestly that bleeding cool article about No Serieds in 2019 sort of moots a lot of the points and rumors and posits Series 12 as early as January 2020. Which in par with what Discovery is currently doing.
     
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  19. Professor Zoom

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    I swear to god, the sky has been falling in Doctor Who every moment since Eccelston’s departure was announced.

    It’s a long running show by any standard. It will take a pause at some point. Jodie will leave at some point. Ratings will go down, they will go up, at some point.
     
  20. Turtletrekker

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    Someone recently posted an old review of the second episode of the Hartnell era, and apparently the sky has been falling ever since then.