Janeway must have known that Q can see the future?

[Guy Gardener]

Have you ever yelled at a rerun? Yelling at the TV is some thing I do for fun, usually telling one fictional character to kiss another fictional character, and sometimes they can hear me if I'm loud enough, but when I'm yelling at a rerun, really I'm just going through the motions ain't I? I know if and when they're going to kiss no matter when and how loud I tell them to smooch hard like their SAG residuals depended on it...

When the universe was created 13.7 Billion years ago (Voyager was there, so lets not harp on over that hokey fanfiction about the universe being 6000 years old.) Q knew the outcome of this and every other encounter he would ever have with Picard, Sisko and Janeway. That was why Q wanted to top himself anyway, nothing was a surprise, he'd done everything and seen everything that every was and will be but yet he was forced to muddle on waiting for doomsday. Poor bastard. Such tedium.

So if Janeway knew that Q knew what the final conclusion to her hearing towards the mortality of Q would be, then why did she suffered to be treated like a like a child-using-their-fingers-to-add-small-numbers for their enjoyment? They also knew the war was coming, that Janeway wouldn't sleep with him, and that Q would. janeway is a drone and if they don't treat her like a drone then they're humouring her like we do to small children, idiots and the senile... So really is it more offensive to Janeway to be ignored or to have these psuedogods pretend that her input is consequential and in fact not just another reason for Q to commit suicide?

Why did she put up with this?

Did she even notice?

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Are you kidding? I yelled myself hoarse at VOY in first run. I don't dare look at reruns.

Yelling at the TV is some thing I do for fun, usually telling one fictional character to kiss another fictional character

Me too. Now if only those stupid Petrelli brothers would listen to me.

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

I yelled at the TV a million times when Voyager was on, but not for that episode. When it comes to Voyager probably best not to think too much when time travel or omniscience is involved.

 

[Timewalker]

Q may know the future, but that doesn't excuse Janeway, et. al from going through the motions in the present to ensure that the future Q knows will actually happen.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Q can see all possible outcomes across parallel time, rebellion, middleground and acquiescence.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

How do you know that Q knows the future?

 

[Guy Gardener]

From Deja Q

Q: I've learned my lesson, Q.
Q2: Remember who you're talking to. All knowing, all seeing. Fine, you got your powers back. Try and stay out of trouble.
(Q2 vanishes, and Q snaps his fingers. He gets himself a Starfleet uniform)

Howssssss that?

 

[Cyke101]

From Deja Q

Q: I've learned my lesson, Q.
Q2: Remember who you're talking to. All knowing, all seeing. Fine, you got your powers back. Try and stay out of trouble.
(Q2 vanishes, and Q snaps his fingers. He gets himself a Starfleet uniform)

Howssssss that?

I think, to back up your example, everytime Picard and his crew got through a Q episode, Q would smugly smile back, essentially going, "I knew you could do it. I win."

Of course, then Voyager comes around with the hokey Q Civil War episode, but that could be also Qs messing around with each other's omniscience. Or Wibbly-Wobbly in Q Continuum terms.

 

[Guy Gardener]

But that was the point of the war. Time wasn't wibbly wobbly timey wimey. they were stuck in patterns they couldn't adjust, which may have included the war and the illusion of independence which they all must have known was quite false.

I was thinking about Q2, the one with the kid. And how Janeway Allowed Icheb and q to march off to their own executions. Considering the lengths she went to in 40 days to help Tom escape responsibility for his actions this had always seemed drastic to me... Unless Kathy had outsmarted the events and already figured out that Q was playing them all... Which he would have known about but been forced to play the game to fulfill the requirements of predestination, since Everything from a Q's perspective is predestined.

 

[Deks]

I can definitely imagine the Q as being capable of seeing multiple possible outcomes, but the catch is that only one of them will happen in that particular universe, and even they would be unable to predict which one will happen 100%.

Oh it is entirely possible that Q was playing it all along, but also, for the most part, every time he would appear, he would be the one to set things in a certain direction.
That way he knows of potential results, but there were occasions when things didn't go in his favor and surprised him.
TNG has examples of this, along with Voyager.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Do you watch Wrestling?

Consider the McMahon family. They have absolute power. Ownership, writing, producing managing... However their onscreen personas which they selfcreated are of fools and tyrants easily misled and out smarted by "heroes" which creates a profitable response from the rubes paying to be entertained fulling out the bleachers.

I've always thought that Q built confidence and taught valuable social lessons to the monkeys by pretending to be bested. Making people do what you want them to do by not telling them to do anything is a remarkable leadership skill.