Janeway and cooking...

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by Gotham Central, Jul 17, 2012.

  1. Gotham Central

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    On TNG, Will Riker is said to be a fairly competent cook as was Miles O'Brien (who apparently learned from his mother. On DS9, Sisko was a world class chef. Even Kirk knew how to cook (as shown in Generations and a bit in ST:V). But for some reason Janeway was not only said to be terrible in the kitchen, she could not even use a damn replicator....which is a glorified vending machine.

    I'm just wondering what the rationale was for doing that? Honestly it would have been ok for her to just be an average cook...after all...most people are able to feed themselves and create a basic meal. But then they took it one step further and suggested that she was an awful cook.

    The whole thing with the replicator jus made her look like an idiot. Its a device where you can simply walk up to it and say "soup, hot" and it will give you something perfectly edible. Janeway managed to burn a pot roast in the damn thing. I'm not even sure HOW you go about burning a replicated meal :eek:
     
  2. Guy Gardener

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    Not if one of her past lovers built a back door into every replicator in the federation to stuff up her meal plans.

    It's like in Dirk Gently how that guy sabotaged an entire Astrological star sign he was forecasting for in a national newspaper just to get this one guy who done run off with his girlfriend.

    This program wouldnt probably be able to tell the difference between any and all the women (ever?) called Kathryn Janeway?
     
  3. R. Star

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    Because a woman who could cook and thus feed the female sterotype would take away from Janeway's authority somehow. Like her decisions though, they blew this all out of porportion and ended up just making her look dumb.
     
  4. Guy Gardener

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    Which is the same reason Mulgrew wouldn't let Kathy screw around.

    Which really sounds like that they're chipping away stuff that should be there until she's perfect.
     
  5. Collingwood Nick

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    I'm glad they prevented her from being too human. This is Star Trek not Days of our Bloody Lives. The few relationships that did evolve were annoying enough
     
  6. Finn

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    When was Riker a competent cook? :confused:
     
  7. Guy Gardener

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    The monkey found some eggs. Made an omelet but no one but Worf would eat it, Worf then ate everyone elses left overs. Pretty funny.

    A bad cook blames his ingredients.

    It all happened in Time Squared.

    Seven became a perfect cook too.

    this was the episode that we found out she drinks secretly.

    She refused to change Tom's wine order with dinner because he was a yokel.
     
  8. R. Star

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    Riker stated in that episode or maybe the Icarus Factor, I forget, that he had to cook because his mom was dead and his dad couldn't.... and apparently was so deadbeat couldn't afford a replicator even in a moneyless economy. Maybe he couldn't read the Federation welfare forms.
     
  9. MacLeod

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    Not everyone is a good cook. That's true today.

    As for the replicator, if you like your meal a particular way you have to programme it to deliver the meal in that way. Sure it could replicate a perfect peice of toast, but if you like it on the burnt side you would have to programme/have it programmed to deliver it that way.

    All it takes is one small line of code to be wrong and the outcome changes to something which could be inedible.
     
  10. Gov Kodos

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    This is a computer technology that can produce something like the EMH, yet for cooking it can't equal your average Japanese vending machine. http://www.photomann.com/index.php?dest=machines One would expect you'd just get some sample tastes of a desired meal, tell the thing more or less of any aspects that you prefer and finalize your preference. After that, with the systems voice recognition, saying coffee, lamb vindaloo, or whatever else is your preference. It's a poorly conceived story conceit. My ten dollar coffee maker does a better job than the average TNG replicator.
     
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  11. Guy Gardener

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    Are you dissing Kyle Riker?

    That bloke is so virile that he could get it up for a golem like Pulaski.
     
  12. R. Star

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    Clearly he was very farsighted.
     
  13. Guy Gardener

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    No ones mentioned Tuvoks desserts and pastries from Riddles.

    Or Janeway mocking Chells puns?

    And what about the 2 months on the resolutions planet?

    Did she tie the Indian down in the Kitchen?
     
  14. R. Star

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    Well Tuvok's pastries seemed more akin to Neelix exposing the brain damaged Vulcan to his likes and dislikes. No surprise Tuvok was better at it than the hedgehog.

    Janeway condecendingly mocked most everyone at some point, so that's nothing new.

    As for the Resolution planet? Why not... she had Chakotay doing everything else there.
     
  15. T'Girl

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    In the episode Remember Me, Beverly told fake Picard that Riker loved to cook, which isn't quite the same as being good at it. Practice sometimes does makes perfect.

    I had a boyfriend who liked me to make his chocolate chip cookies slighty burned on the bottoms, so some people do like burned food. If Janeway stupidly or accidently told the replicator to burn the food, the machine would just shrug and make it that way.

    :)
     
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    I dunno, an old roommate of mine loved burned cheese. No accounting for taste there, but whatever makes em happy. I do recall a TNG episode where Troi was asking the replicator for "real chocolate" and not a synthesized replica and it all but told her "Not programmed to do that, piss off." You'd think it would come built in with parameters like... not burning food to the point of it not being fit for consumption?
     
  17. MacLeod

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    Take something simple like steak for example, some people like it rare, others well done. Both might consider not fit for consumption.

    People have different tastes when it comes to food. As for the replicators remember it comes down to programming, a program can be overidden.
     
  18. EnabranTain

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    Oh, I give a hearty chuckle whenever that loveable Janeway attempts to cook. Stick to your strengths, my dear.
     
  19. MacLeod

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    ^Gets out the popcorn and pop, and wait's for the inevitable responses. ;)
     
  20. EnabranTain

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    Whatever do you mean, Mr. MacLeod?