Which really doesn't make sense since me and probably alot of other people get the novelisations for the stuff that differs from the movie.
James Cameron reads Trek?
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One of the reasons I am so interested in Trek tie-in literature as opposed to, say, novelization of existing stories is that the Trek novels, being new works of fiction, have a much greater scope for new ideas and stories, albeit set in the universe we are all so familiar with and the characters we know and love.
Hi KRAD! Slightly OT, I'm wondering if you remember waaaay back after you just got the job to pen the Serenity novelization, we had a discussion on this board about The Rebel Angels, which Joss Whedon cited as one of the primary inspirations for Firefly. Did you ever manage to get around to reading it and, if so, was it of any help while writing Serenity? I read and very much enjoyed the Serenity novelization and often wondered, while reading it, if any elements from The Rebel Angels had contributed to the writing process? (in my imagination they had, but I'd be curious to know if I was simply reading that into it!)
Hi KRAD! Slightly OT, I'm wondering if you remember waaaay back after you just got the job to pen the Serenity novelization, we had a discussion on this board about The Rebel Angels, which Joss Whedon cited as one of the primary inspirations for Firefly. Did you ever manage to get around to reading it and, if so, was it of any help while writing Serenity? I read and very much enjoyed the Serenity novelization and often wondered, while reading it, if any elements from The Rebel Angels had contributed to the writing process? (in my imagination they had, but I'd be curious to know if I was simply reading that into it!)
And that's point. "How fast can you do it?" That's what I myself would call a hack job.
And we all know that Cameron likes to keep as much control as possible everything. Which is why he also never directs a movie without writing the script himself. He invested a lot of time and work into his Avatar world, so its only understandable that he wants to write the novel himself and not let some "hack" do it that will get it all different from his vision.
JoeZhang said:
That's my understanding, too.
As a tie-in reader, I've enjoyed this entire thread but I'd like to go back to the above comments for a brief moment.
(1) How did they kill off Kirk in the "Generations" hardcover?
(2) What was the last-minute change to the ending of the "Generations" movie?
In the the original Generations ending, the hardback novelization and the YA one too, Kirk is shot in the back by Soran. It's on some versions of the DVD as well as YouTube, along with the skydiving intro scene. Test audiences were not pleased with the way Kirk died and the ending was reshot.
i thought everyone knew about that by now!
This is hardly a new trend, though--the novelisations of the Back to the Future sequels don't have any new scenes in them, for example (the few scenes I thought were new turned out to be deleted), and (since someone mentioned it already) the novelisation of "Unification" has almost no new material in it, even though it was written by one of the writers of the two-parter. :/
Greg, do you have any sense of why studios increasingly want that sort of exactitude of adaptation--especially when audiences now have so much more access to excised material than they used to?
Not really. No one has ever officially explained it to me. My best guess is that it's the internet's fault. There have been some unfortunate incidents where someone posted a scathing advance review of the "movie" based entirely on the novelization. So studios are possibly terrified that their $100 million movie is going to get trashed on-line because of something the novelizer made up . . . .
Then again, I once managed to get an excised scene put back in because it was going to be in the Director's Cut version of the DVD.
I don't recall genetically modified Romulan stormtroopers going on a bloody rampage against civilian dissenters in the episodes...?
Yeah, I seem to recall a mentorship between Spock and a young Romulan that was a continuing subplot of the novelization.
Also the first brief TAS reference (to the Phylosians) since that infamous 1989 memo that had eradicated TAS from canon.
I'm novelizing my own sold (but unproduced, the company went out of business) screenplay and one of my audios for ebook - I wonder how strict I should be with myself...
If the company went out of business, what happened to the rights to the screenplay?
Greg Cox said:
Nice thing was to read ST: Insurrection's alternate ending in the novelization, while listening to the alternate version of the soundtrack written for that scene on the soundtrack CD. That was one of the very last minute changes that not only affected the novel.
For a while, I've been working on "novelizing" my first published prose story -- expanding it and continuing the story beyond it -- and though I initially wanted to be as faithful to the original as possible, I ended up deciding to change things as much as I needed to.
This I am now looking forward to.
*wanders off muttering..."need more money for books"...*
I have them - I thought of trying to sell it elsewhere, but just don't have the contacts...
Well, don't hold your breath. I haven't finished writing it -- in fact, I'm in the process of rethinking a lot of the story so I'm kind of stalled -- and it's on spec, so I haven't sold it or anything.
^Christopher, I know the feeling. I have one novel stalled at around 40,000 words, one with four first chapters floating around my hard drive, one story almost finished and several dozen more ideas for short stories and novels waiting to be worked on.
All spec.
I need money and I am desperately trying to finish something so I can send it off in the hopes that it will sell.
All spec.
I need money and I am desperately trying to finish something so I can send it off in the hopes that it will sell.