It's going to court!

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by PicardSpeedo, Oct 16, 2018.

  1. Nerys Myk

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    Captain Jacques-Pierre Normand approves.
     
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  4. Gavin70

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    Perhaps, as a nod to fandom, he should say that in one of the post series big budget movies.
     
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  5. Ovation

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    Somehow, I get the feeling that that won’t happen.
     
  6. starsuperion

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    That requires self reflection and stepping outside of one's own position... Infinity is a long wait. But I have hope one day, you will discover it. Maybe.. But narcasism and self righteousness is hard to over come. Objective views are even harder to come to when there's a specific ideology one has adopted.it excludes the possibility that you could be wrong..to see another view point. As stated. Infinity is a long time to wait. Good luck.
     
  7. Locutus of Bored

    Locutus of Bored That's not... ahhhh... logical, man Moderator

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    You've refused to discuss the actual topic and have resorted to personal remarks after being told to stop. Infraction for flaming. Comments to PM. And you have been reply banned from this thread.
     
  8. DaveyNY

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    I think we may just hit the one year anniversary (Aug. 19, 2018) before anything comes of this court case.
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  10. Krandor

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    I know the judge can take all the time she wants to rule but I’m kinda surprised it’s taking this long.
     
  11. Ovation

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    While I think the case has no real merit, it’s a bit cruel to the guy to have him twist in the wind like this.
     
  12. Krandor

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    I know. I wonder if anything is going on behind the scenes with the two parties?
     
  13. DaveyNY

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    Yes..., CBS's Lawyer is probably telling Abdin's Lawyer where to put that Tardigrade.
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  14. Rahul

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    Court cases take fooooreeeeeeeeeveer.
    That's why "stalling" is such a great strategy for people with money. Most people simply can't afford it. (That's not a comment on this particular court case, more like how the court system is way overworked as a whole).

    Even in cases that are way more clear cut or justified, it takes years and years until anyone sees any results. Life's not like a court show where after one session there's a clear cut verdict. Court cases wear people down, especially the uncertainty during the whole time.
     
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    This is true. I was listening to a radio interview with a lawyer who stated that if he had not pushed forward on a criminal case three times it would not have been prosecuted, just due to the sheer amount of time and effort it takes.
     
  16. saladdays

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    Pretty much. Especially in criminal cases, but also in plenty of civil cases too.
     
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  17. Noname Given

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    WRT Criminal cases, no. They are done as expeditiously as possible because often you are dealing with someone sitting in jail/prison. They are MANDATED to be heard in a certain amount of days. If it's a capital case (IE manslaughter/murder); yes, the defense may agree to an extension because they need time to look over the evidence to formulate a defense.

    Civil cases (involving money) take forever because there is no incarceration involved, plus the 'losing' side can continue to appeal the decision all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court (and if they decline to hear the case then the last highest appeals court ruling stands.)

    As for this case, I'm sure CBS is content to wait it out and the ball' in the Plaintiff's court (no pun intended) as the Judge set out a clear description of what she needed for the discovery portion to move forward; and set a date (which the Plaintiff has already missed). That said, she may be waiting to see just what (if any) further hard evidence (if any) the Plaintiff brings to the table; but unless it's an absolute 'smoking gun'/'bombshell' - at the point they do, CBS will raise the objection that the Plaintiff missed the Judge's date - and the Judge will ultimately rule.

    And if you wonder why she's doing it this way, it's to head off any claim on appeal that the Plaintiffs weren't given enough time. The record would show she in effect gave them time, and they came up with nothing further to present.
     
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  18. saladdays

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    While, in theory, this is supposed to be the case, this doesn't always happen because of our overloaded court system. The court system was simply not designed to be able to handle as many cases that go through there, and there literally are people sitting in jail cells for months or even years because they can't afford bail, with their case being put on the back burner with continuances and such because of the overloading and overworked prosecutors. Some of these charges are pretty low on the criminal scale too. Then you have the people who can afford bail, but still have a case hanging over their head for a while. I specifically know about a case where someone was charged years ago, but has to keep getting continuances because the accuser is not even being that cooperative with the prosecutor.

    There is more to the long time frame than just the lack of incarceration involved, but I'm not going argue over that. But only federal cases can be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. State cases can be appealed up to the particular state's Supreme Court. But very, very few cases actually get that far. And a criminal conviction can also be appealed the same way as well.

    Well, I will agree with you on that. The judge has been more than lenient with Abdin, but also someone on here mentioned how this particular judge is notorious for taking a while with decisions like this, which I'm sure comes into play somewhat too.

    Well, maybe, but see my point above about how the judge purportedly takes more time than normal. Now, maybe she routinely does it for this reason, but many judges would not take this long.
     
  19. XCV330

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    In a tort-happy society there are going to be logjams. No doubt Abdin can use this extra time to window-shop all the amazing things he will buy with his vast windfall from the damages he is sure to get. :nyah:
     
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