It's going to court!

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by PicardSpeedo, Oct 16, 2018.

  1. ScottJ85

    ScottJ85 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    People are a little more scientifically literate than you're giving them credit for Marsh
     
  2. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Yeah, I never watched Cosmos, I just went to school and learned about Tardigrades there. The German name for it was cute enough to not forget about it... Bärtierchen - Little-Bear-Animal
     
  3. Campe98

    Campe98 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I read an article. Wasn’t that complicated.
     
  4. fireproof78

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    If Neil deGrasse Tyson talks about it it at least gets a once over. It certainly isn't a stretch of the imagination for science fiction writers to have seen.
     
  5. Burning Hearts of Qo'nOs

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    Slowpoke here (but I have been enjoying this "conversation"), but I just watched Ant-man and The Wasp last night (and very much enjoyed it) and, gasp! They totally had tardigrades in it (quantum tardigrades, no less). Disney and Marvel, after all, are best known for their hard sci-fi, so it's pretty unfortunate that literally no one who saw the movie was smart enough to even know what they were. I sure hope this guy has big pockets for all that BIG money I'm sure he's gonna make when he sues them too.
     
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  6. marsh8472

    marsh8472 Fleet Captain Premium Member

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    Maybe I don't know. I haven't seen anything to make me think they can make correct decisions when things get complicated. They can weed out jurors with higher education too. Plus he's got a tear jerker story.
     
  7. DaveyNY

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    I rather doubt that this case will ever get in front of a jury.
    I'm not even sure it'll make it past the smell test for the judge.
     
  8. ScottJ85

    ScottJ85 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Yeah, expect this one to get thrown out early.
     
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  9. Midquest

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    I have very low expectations of YouTube comments, but these are worse than I thought they'd be.

    It's amazing what a perfect consensus the commenters on that video have formed. It's nearly unanimous that Abdin was wronged, that CBS is evil, and that those images look similar. There's a lot of support for the notion that the courts are likely to rule in his favor (and what's this about his parents helping him pay for this?). Oh, and the usual anti-SJW talk with a few next-level comments about actors' weight, skin color, and LGBTQIA+ identity.

    I wish all the people who aren't lawyers would stop trying to be lawyers. Any number of people in those comments say that no one's opinion matters, and that we have to trust the court. I look forward with interest to their response if the court decides there's nothing to see here.
     
  10. Burning Hearts of Qo'nOs

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    "You can wish in one hand and crap in the other..."
     
  11. fireproof78

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    The scary part is that some of these individuals might actually serve on juries some day.
     
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  12. ScottJ85

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    I'm pretty confident the court will decide this, but as you said, I'm not a lawyer, when you get right down to it I'm just some guy commenting on an internet forum.
     
  13. Ravenswood

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    Wow, that was the first I'd seen that trailer, and the first thing I thought was how the uniforms and interiors reminded me of ENT. The second thing I thought was that the bearded character looks a lot like Riker, especially with the "holodeck" looking interior that was also straight out of TNG. It's be ironic if they came out of this with a counter suit alleging it was they who plagiarised Trek!
     
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  14. donners22

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    Hell, I am a lawyer and I don’t purport to have an authoritative view. IP law is a specialised area, and we don’t have the benefit of all the material and arguments.

    The discussion really just seems to reflect whether people like or dislike Discovery, which is not to the point.
     
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  15. ScottJ85

    ScottJ85 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Which brings us back to "who knows, let's see how it plays out" I suppose.
     
  16. DaveyNY

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    Well, I hope I'm using more of a bit of my common sense, instead of some deep seated emotional and prejudicial intent that I'm not consciously aware of.

    I honestly don't know him from Adam, and I have no reason to begrudge Mr. Abdin his day in court, but I just don't see with what public information we have (which is pretty extensive), how his 'day in court' is going to pan out well for him.
    The one emotion I do feel for him is sorrow, if this ends up costing him and his parents a lot of money.

    (of course, for all I know, they could be quite well off and any expenditure toward this, amounts to a drop in the bucket for them)
    :shrug:
     
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  17. Jackson_Roykirk

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    Careful! Anas Abdin might claim they all stole the idea from him!
     
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    Jackson_Roykirk Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    You're right about the "we don't know IP law" part. However (and as DaveNY pointed out) some of us are hopefully using common sense -- which I think still applies.

    I can use my common sense in order to believe (1) Tardigrades could have easily been two independent ideas by both sides, and (2) If Rapp was cast before the game's blonde gay character was made public knowledge on Steam (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong about that), it seems that Stamets could not have been copied from the game.

    Although another explanation for the Stamets thing is that maybe CBS had a spy among the game developers prior to those developers releasing the information about the game on Steam, but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of such a person.
     
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  19. DaveyNY

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    Just for the record, Mr. Abdin is the only who was working on his project from the get go.
    There's no "Team" as far as I can tell from what he originally posted in the STEAM community.

    Also, from what I can dredge up, his project was One (1) of over 100k projects that were entered into the STEAM contest and it was no where near the top of that list.
    Actually, from what I saw, it was pretty close to the bottom.
    :shrug:
     
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  20. Campe98

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    There’s no common sense in fandom. :D
     
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