its a buzz saw

[RobertScorpio]

Last night was the first night of the summer bowling league. We hadn't bowled in three weeks...so...last night being my first night bowling, I was amazed at how much BUZZ Star Trek XI was still creating...

The last time the league bowled was two days before TREK came out. And most everyone had seen Wolverine and thought it blew (it did)...

Last night, after Angels and Demon/Terminator/Trek had come out, TREK was by far the most liked movie of those three. The team I bowled against was comprised of people under the age of 25. And they were all going on about how this was the first TREK movie that was (nay-sayers follow along) Cool!...

Star Trek cool? Can it be? Yes...

Its a buzz-saw mom!!!

Rob
Scorpio

 

[scottydog]

Re: its a BUZZ SAW!!!

Yes, Star Trek is cool again. Even my 20 year-old daughter liked it. Who would have thought it could happen? Finally!

 

[Squiggy]

Re: its a BUZZ SAW!!!

Yes, Star Trek is cool again.

Respectfully, when was it ever "cool"?

 

[RobertScorpio]

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Yes, Star Trek is cool again. Even my 20 year-old daughter liked it. Who would have thought it could happen? Finally!

Oh...Im sure the nay-sayers will have something to say about this. They always do...

Rob

 

[scottydog]

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Yes, Star Trek is cool again.

Respectfully, when was it ever "cool"?

I think it was cool from 1966 to the late 90s. At least among my friends and my students (I'm a teacher). No doubt the past decade killed the coolness factor.

 

[Squiggy]

Re: its a BUZZ SAW!!!

Yes, Star Trek is cool again.

Respectfully, when was it ever "cool"?

I think it was cool from 1966 to the late 90s. At least among my friends and my students (I'm a teacher). No doubt the past decade killed the coolness factor.

I don't think popular opinion (which defines what is and is not cool) would agree with you given how Trekkies were portrayed from that time. I know that TNG's popularity peaked around season 5 and that's when the franchise had it's widest reach but I don't think it was ever "cool".

 

[scottydog]

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^Maybe it all depends on how you define cool. Right now, for the first time in a decade, my students (college-age) now know what Star Trek is, and they like it! They actually like it!

 

[Franklin]

Re: its a BUZZ SAW!!!

Last night was the first night of the summer bowling league. We hadn't bowled in three weeks...so...last night being my first night bowling, I was amazed at how much BUZZ Star Trek XI was still creating...

The last time the league bowled was two days before TREK came out. And most everyone had seen Wolverine and thought it blew (it did)...

Last night, after Angels and Demon/Terminator/Trek had come out, TREK was by far the most liked movie of those three. The team I bowled against was comprised of people under the age of 25. And they were all going on about how this was the first TREK movie that was (nay-sayers follow along) Cool!...

Star Trek cool? Can it be? Yes...

Its a buzz-saw mom!!!

Rob
Scorpio

Well, cool among bowlers. But then, how cool are league bowlers? (He said, having bowled in a league for ten years, himself. )

 

[SonicRanger]

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The prior maximum Trek "coolness" was between TVH and mid-TNG.

 

[scottydog]

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The prior maximum Trek "coolness" was between TVH and mid-TNG.

Interesting how we all have different views about when trek was maximally cool. I always thought it peaked in the mid-90s with the First Contact movie. But we may be witnessing a new peak right now with Star Trek XI and its sequel.

 

[RobertScorpio]

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The prior maximum Trek "coolness" was between TVH and mid-TNG.

agreed...nearly twenty years ago..aye...

Rob

 

[The]

Re: its a BUZZ SAW!!!

I've seen this film in the theaters four times now.

First time, a couple of probably-late-70ish gray haired old ladies sat next/near me.

Second time, three obvious Trekkies were a couple of seats away.

Third time, what had to be about seven females, ages ranging from I would guess 15 to late-20's, sat all together in the row behind me.

Fourth was packed-house, and next to my wife and I, a family with their two young children between ages 6 to 14 I'd hazard.

Every time...every single crowd...every theater house I've seen this in...Star Trek has been loved. When's the last time you heard a crowd laugh as full outside of a comedy? When's the last time the action and tension caused audible gasps or cheers in the audience? When's the last time soaring emotion caused sniffles in the crowd? And across every age range, it's striking a chord.

I just went to a party of specifically non-scifi fans last weekend. Guess what movie everyone was talking about?

See, I think the fans love it, the non-fans love it, and for the true, non-scifi purists, it's a kitschy, hip thing to be identified with at the moment. And all of this does nothing but cement Star Trek's viability for the next decade, at least.

My friend of over fifteen years...who has no real high regard for Trek...saw the movie with me. At the end, driving away, I asked, "So...what did you think?"

He responded simply, "Star Trek is back."

 

[RobertScorpio]

Re: its a BUZZ SAW!!!

I've seen this film in the theaters four times now.

First time, a couple of probably-late-70ish gray haired old ladies sat next/near me.

Second time, three obvious Trekkies were a couple of seats away.

Third time, what had to be about seven females, ages ranging from I would guess 15 to late-20's, sat all together in the row behind me.

Fourth was packed-house, and next to my wife and I, a family with their two young children between ages 6 to 14 I'd hazard.

Every time...every single crowd...every theater house I've seen this in...Star Trek has been loved. When's the last time you heard a crowd laugh as full outside of a comedy? When's the last time the action and tension caused audible gasps or cheers in the audience? When's the last time soaring emotion caused sniffles in the crowd? And across every age range, it's striking a chord.

I just went to a party of specifically non-scifi fans last weekend. Guess what movie everyone was talking about?

See, I think the fans love it, the non-fans love it, and for the true, non-scifi purists, it's a kitschy, hip thing to be identified with at the moment. And all of this does nothing but cement Star Trek's viability for the next decade, at least.

My friend of over fifteen years...who has no real high regard for Trek...saw the movie with me. At the end, driving away, I asked, "So...what did you think?"

He responded simply, "Star Trek is back."

And yet nay-sayers will say things like "it is attracting the wrong kind of people as fans"..yes, I have actually heard this. Well, I think it will attract a much needed brand of fans; females. And that can only be a good thing.

Rob

 

[Steven Of Nine]

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It's annihilated previous box office for the franchise, is past Wolverine and almost over $200,000,000 US in box office. My wife wants to go see it again, weeks after open, having hated all those TOS I made her watch.

My 6-yr old daughter loved it and wants to see it, again. I'm waiting for it to hit the dollar-theatre, and I plan to spend a day there, seeing it repeatedly. But, then, I'm one of those who thought it was cool when the general populace so clearly thought we were idiots.

 

[TheArsenal]

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Pfft. Any true Star Trek fan can recite the timeline of cool/uncool.

September 22, 1966, December 15, 1966 April 6, 1967, and April 12, 1968 Star Trek was cool for one hour apiece. Not 60s hippy groovy cool, but better than Lost In Space cool.

September 28, 1968 (Spock's Brain) it became massively uncool which became its normal state of being.

June 4, 1982 (WOK) it was almost cool for nearly three full weeks.

November 28, 1986 (TVH) it was still uncool, but people were able to laugh with the Trekkies instead of at.

It relapsed into its default state of the hopelessly and laughably uncool until February 19, 1990 (Yesterdays Enterprise) where it maintained a state of "not completely uncool" for some brief years.

It then became radioactively uncool, with brief spells of wildly uncool, but wildly uncool featuring attractive women in catsuits (see: Voyager, Enterprise).

It has remained in the state of abysmally uncool until the new film. While not cool, the new film is in the process of scrubbing the stink of geek off; and as such is rated as just this side of cool.


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[Islander]

Re: its a BUZZ SAW!!!

Nice coolness history lessons!

Well, for me Buzz Saw is a character is Schwarzenegger's Running Man but one can easily see that, regardless of box office (which is not an issue anyway), this is the first Trek to reach far beyond any other movie or show ever produced. I don't know if that's cool, but I like it.

 

[RobertScorpio]

Re: its a BUZZ SAW!!!

Pfft. Any true Star Trek fan can recite the timeline of cool/uncool.

September 22, 1966, December 15, 1966 April 6, 1967, and April 12, 1968 Star Trek was cool for one hour apiece. Not 60s hippy groovy cool, but better than Lost In Space cool.

September 28, 1968 (Spock's Brain) it became massively uncool which became its normal state of being.

June 4, 1982 (WOK) it was almost cool for nearly three full weeks.

November 28, 1986 (TVH) it was still uncool, but people were able to laugh with the Trekkies instead of at.

It relapsed into its default state of the hopelessly and laughably uncool until February 19, 1990 (Yesterdays Enterprise) where it maintained a state of "not completely uncool" for some brief years.

It then became radioactively uncool, with brief spells of wildly uncool, but wildly uncool featuring attractive women in catsuits (see: Voyager, Enterprise).

It has remained in the state of abysmally uncool until the new film. While not cool, the new film is in the process of scrubbing the stink of geek off; and as such is rated as just this side of cool.


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Umm..that was quite funny!!! 100% right. (but be warned...equating STAR TREK FANS to GEEKS can get you a warning around here. I know..trust me)

Rob

 

[TheArsenal]

Re: its a BUZZ SAW!!!

Originally Posted by RobertScorpio;3017894
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Umm..that was quite funny!!! 100% right. (but be warned...equating STAR TREK FANS to GEEKS can get you a warning around here. I know..trust me)

Rob

That's a typo. I meant to type "the admirable protectors of Star Trek's legacy and canon". The "G" key is awfully close to the "T" key, so such typos can be common.

 

[RobertScorpio]

Re: its a BUZZ SAW!!!

Umm..that was quite funny!!! 100% right. (but be warned...equating STAR TREK FANS to GEEKS can get you a warning around here. I know..trust me)

Rob

That's a typo. I meant to type "the admirable protectors of Star Trek's legacy and canon". The "G" key is awfully close to the "T" key, so such typos can be common.

LOL!!! I like you!!

Rob