It still makes me sad that Shatner and Nimoy were estranged when Nimoy died?

[Ssosmcin]

Still, it ain't Shatner's first rodeo. He knew every answer he gave in an interview is fair game. He could have refused to answer any question he didn't like. Like when he changed the subject after 2 Star Trek queries.

I found it enjoyable. He seems like a nut.

 

[Yistaan]

Still, it ain't Shatner's first rodeo.

This must be the biggest understatement of the thread. The man's 90 and has been doing media interviews and press since for over 50 years since before the creation of the modern internet, and before most of us and any of his current interviewers were alive. He could probably do this in his sleep.

 

[Ssosmcin]

This must be the biggest understatement of the thread.

Yes! I win!

The man's 90 and has been doing media interviews and press since for over 50 years since before the creation of the modern internet, and before most of us and any of his current interviewers were alive. He could probably do this in his sleep.

Right? So that's why I don't think these questions were bothersome and he certainly knew the answers would be published. And it's not about Star Trek, so he's probably happy to talk about anything else.

 

[M'Sharak]

It still makes me sad that Shatner and Nimoy were estranged when Nimoy died?

No.

Why should it?

 

[dupersuper]

This must be the biggest understatement of the thread. The man's 90 and has been doing media interviews and press since for over 50 years since before the creation of the modern internet, and before most of us and any of his current interviewers were alive. He could probably do this in his sleep.

Also; his involvement in literal charity rodeos...

 

[Ssosmcin]

Also; his involvement in literal charity rodeos...

I love it here. You all get me.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

...he strikes me as more tech proficient than James Kirk himself honestly.

While Shatner's tech savvy is impressive, I think I'll still give it to Kirk unless we see Shatner repair a starship like we saw Kirk do in "The Doomsday Machine."

Shatner's fascination with Bill Murray's estrangement from Harold Ramis reminds me that a big part of Shatner's personality seems to be curiosity. He seems to have a genuine passion for discovering new things about people and the world he lives in. That's a great trait to have.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

The biggest point of the Guardian article in relation to this thread:

"But his daughter told me not long ago: ‘He really loved you.’ And that moved me to tears,” he says."/

So, despite some trying to create some picture of resentment between the two (and blame Shatner for it, for who knows what reason), Nimoy's own daughter drops some major truth on how Nimoy truly felt about Shatner. That's what matters.

 

[Poltargyst]

While Shatner's tech savvy is impressive, I think I'll still give it to Kirk unless we see Shatner repair a starship like we saw Kirk do in "The Doomsday Machine."

Shatner's fascination with Bill Murray's estrangement from Harold Ramis reminds me that a big part of Shatner's personality seems to be curiosity. He seems to have a genuine passion for discovering new things about people and the world he lives in. That's a great trait to have.

And I think he did a good job of giving Kirk that sense of curiosity and passion for discovery.

 

[Warped9]

Honestly, this is how I prefer to remember Shatner and Nimoy's relationship:

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Thats awesome!

 

[Grizzlor]

Not sure the Murray/Ramis thing is quite the same. Bill Murray has a reputation for being a bully, and in addition to Ramis, Richard Dreyfus, Chevy Chase, and many others had major problems working with him. Andie MacDowell wasn't fond of him on Groundhog Day either. He's a comedic genius though, so it's often overlooked, and he does have a kind soul, just
winds up being a whack-a-doodle sometimes.

Good find on the now 5-year old Orci comment, which as I said, the "footage" disagreement never made sense. Shatner never brings that up either.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

One purpose of attending a wake and a funeral is that, by seeing them in the casket, and seeing the casket into the ground, your subconscious mind is satisfied as to where the deceased went.

If you don't have closure, something in the back of your mind might go on waiting for the deceased to show up again. Like maybe they keep showing up in your dreams, in which you forget they ever died. That's been the situation with my parents for decades now.

My condolences. That's rough.

I can relate. My best friend of 26 years died suddenly back in August, and I still don't feel like I have closure on it. Even though I saw him in his hospital bed shortly after he passed, he was cremated, so at the funeral services, I didn't see him in a coffin. There was just an urn and some pictures of him. No burial and no grave that I can visit. He's just... gone.

And I think he did a good job of giving Kirk that sense of curiosity and passion for discovery.

Absolutely. To the point of having Kirk's very last action be him expressing amazement at what he'd just seen.

Another thought on Nimoy's estrangement from Shatner... Nimoy's son Adam talks quite frankly in his documentary For The Love of Spock about how he and his father were estranged for a number of years. They fortunately rebuilt their relationship before Nimoy passed, but apparently that was a part of his personality. He could cut people off, even if they were very close.

Heck, neither Shatner nor Nimoy got along with Gene Roddenberry all that well, either.

 

[The Rock]

Not sure the Murray/Ramis thing is quite the same. Bill Murray has a reputation for being a bully, and in addition to Ramis, Richard Dreyfus, Chevy Chase, and many others had major problems working with him. Andie MacDowell wasn't fond of him on Groundhog Day either. He's a comedic genius though, so it's often overlooked, and he does have a kind soul, just
winds up being a whack-a-doodle sometimes.

Good find on the now 5-year old Orci comment, which as I said, the "footage" disagreement never made sense. Shatner never brings that up either.

About Chevy Chase, I think he was (and still is) a much bigger bully than Bill. I don't think anyone who has worked with him has a kind word to say about Chevy Chase.

As for Bill, I think he was high on drugs most of the time back in those days.

 

[Denise]

Nimoy was the one who in multiple interviews and on twitter called Shatner "his brother": https://trekmovie.com/2009/05/04/exclusive-interview-with-leonard-nimoy/

TrekMovie: Speaking of Bill, you guys just had a nice get together [at the charity Horse show], what was that like?

Nimoy: We always have a lot of fun together, we finish each other’s sentences. We are like brothers, we are brothers. I consider Bill a very very close friend of mine and he feels the same way.


Also as I posted earlier, Roberto Orci, writer on the Kelvin movies, in the comments here (just text search boborci) outright claims in https://trekmovie.com/2016/03/25/review-leonard-my-fifty-year-friendship-with-a-remarkable-man/ that the documentary thing is not the reason Leonard turned on Bill, but he then declines to clarify what it was that did cause the rift, but implies that he knows.

I think Orci either should have said what it was, or not said anything at all.

 

[1001001]

I think Orci either should have said what it was, or not said anything at all.

Hi Denise,

Please take a moment to review the rules for posting here, pinned at the top of this forum. This thread has been dead for 2.5 years. Let's let it rest in peace.

Thanks