has anyone ever wondered if Surak might just be the Bad Guy?? I mean history is written by the victors and considering how internally toxic Vulcan society is it would not be a stretch that Surak's philosophies actually destroyed Vulcan society. I mean they are ashamed of their mating cycles, something that if their philosophies were truly to be taken at face value, they would not care one wit as it is a natural process of the body and mind. And let's not get started with the priests of Gol. Those guys literally lobotomize People. Torturing them until they completely lock down I.E trauma. Whoever can look at this and say that the Surakian way of life is health and good for Vulcan needs to have their eyes checked.