Is it going to be a big CGI film???
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Lt. Arex is the one with three legs. And while it would be cool to see him, I highly doubt we will.
^ Yes. Just a TINY nitpick. 
Barely worth mentioning.
Barely worth mentioning.
I'd be surprised if it wasn't CGI heavy. Hopefully said effects will be similar to Generations/First Contact (best CGI of all the movies I think).
Insurrection looked ok in some scenes but verging a bit too close to Voyager's fake computer-game-type graphics. And Nemesis was just horrible CGI wise.
Insurrection looked ok in some scenes but verging a bit too close to Voyager's fake computer-game-type graphics. And Nemesis was just horrible CGI wise.
I hear Jar Jar Binks is available to be in it.
In all seriousness, I hope we do see a completely CGI character; not so alien that it can't interact smoothly with the other characters but at least alien enough so that there is no way a person wearing prosthetics could be playing it.
In all seriousness, I hope we do see a completely CGI character; not so alien that it can't interact smoothly with the other characters but at least alien enough so that there is no way a person wearing prosthetics could be playing it.
I was fairly impressed as well until I watched Generations and First Contact again, ILM are without a doubt best in the business.
Nemesis graphics I found too... 'shiny', if I can describe them like that. The texturing on the Enterprise looked far too metallic and reflective, and the lighting in the Rift was awful. Coupled with the poor LCARS graphics and general mess of the cloaking effect, I can't say I cared for the Nemesis visuals. Even the Romulan city although beautiful, still looked dead and lifeless.
I suppose it all has to do with CGI, I think most of the shots in FC were physical models? They tend to look better generally so maybe that's why I prefer them.
I did like some Nemesis shots. The bit where the Enterprise fires phasers in all directions for instance. The crash was ok, but again the lighting let it down.
Mutenroshi said:
Tiny nitpick: the movie is in preproduction right now.
Tinier nitpick: the OP was talking about the 44 weeks at the end of filming (if the 8 weeks to film is correct) until the release Christmas 2008.
44 weeks isn't really that long for post-production though.
Really? I watched it and honestly don't see how it was done with physical models. If it was, in fact, a largely physical effect, it HAD to have been supplemented with a lot of CGI elements, it seems. So,perhaps it was more of a "hybrid" effect?
The little bits and pieces flying off in all directlys, the crumpling plating... it looked too... "good"... to be a physical model.
Maybe my eyes aren't as well-calibrated as I think that they are, but that's my take on it.
Any backup to support this that I can check out? I'm really pretty curious right now.
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Actually, one reason it looks bad is that most of the debris is just falling UP, cuz they shot the models inverted. I think the collision model for the E was not up to snuff, so it LOOKED like it was just a shape with the details texture mapped on, like most CG. In that sense, it fit right in with the rest of the ship shots that WERE CG -- as in, not looking all that convincing (the lighting was really bad on the rift stuff, you need to turn brightness WAY down to watch parts of the movie due to the cartooniness, and I haven't found a way to watch the drydock shots at the end without wincing ever.
It's on the Nemesis DE DVD, in the special features. They show the two models being smashed together upside-down. They probably extended the scene with CGI, since they didn't build full models, just a saucer and piece of the Schimitar. But most of the main action in the crash is model-work.
I have complete faith in ILM.
I rewatched Galaxy Quest the other day, and the FX in that movie were pretty much spot on. The film is what, five or six years old? You wouldnt think it.
The elevator scene when you see the NSEA PROTECTOR in the dock gave me chills. There is a real sense of scale in that shot. To be honest, I'm not sure if they used CGI or models, but those guys are the best in the business.
I rewatched Galaxy Quest the other day, and the FX in that movie were pretty much spot on. The film is what, five or six years old? You wouldnt think it.
The elevator scene when you see the NSEA PROTECTOR in the dock gave me chills. There is a real sense of scale in that shot. To be honest, I'm not sure if they used CGI or models, but those guys are the best in the business.
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