Is Ensign Kim the whiniest character ever?

[Garren]

I mean... he's kind of pathetic, undisciplined. Just watched The Disease, where Kim finds love with an alien named Tal and wacky hijinks ensue. The first scene we have is of Kim whining about how he broke protocol as he paces a nice trench into the floor for his tears to form a moat.

Then later he gives an impassioned speech to the captain but it sounds more like he's throwing a fit and having a childish tantrum because he can't be a professional and respect his Captain.

He's read Starfleet protocol and procedure, so he knows why he shouldn't just plug it in every green alien that comes along like some other yellow jacketed captain. He knows the Captain has a responsibility to make sure he doesn't spread his STDs all over a wayward ship of a limited crew that has a long voyage. But that doesn't matter to Kim. He wants to talk about wuv.. and all the benefits of his feelings.

To be honest, when he started talking mess about the Captain's personal life, I really expected Janeway to slap the **** out of him.

This isn't the first time. In season 2's Resolutions he didn't respect Tuvok's command and again took things personally.

All around he seems like a really pathetic character who hasn't grown at all.

 

[T'Girl]

Whiniest character to me would be the one who complains the most (or simply non-stop).

The whiniest character is BeLanna Torres.

 

[Melakon]

Harry is what Wesley Crusher would have turned into had he stayed in Starfleet.

 

[bbjeg]

Kim is whiny but the whiniest has to be TNG's Norah Satie. At least Kim didn't get a crewmember fired or go after innocent people.

That's off the top of my head.

 

[Catarina]

No, Garrett is the biggest whiner around.

 

[Borough 31]

In all of Star Trek? Probably.

In all of Sci Fi? IDK..G'Kar was pretty whiny.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I wouldn't classify Harry as a 'Whiner' so much as really passive almost as if he's begging for approval.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Kim was written to be an accurate representation of Star Trek fans.

 

[Melakon]

At least Garrett got to be kissed by Jeri Ryan in a dream sequence during "Waking Moments". Sort of makes up for Harry passing on the chance for more than that in "Revulsion".

 

[Guy Gardener]

It's not real.

Sometimes when a woman looks into your eyes deeply, she is saying , "I love you so much" and other times she is saying "Why haven't you got more hair?"

 

[Lance]

Harry is what Wesley Crusher would have turned into had he stayed in Starfleet.

It's interesting you say that, because canonically Harry Kim and Wesley Crusher are supposed to be the same age. Born in the same year.

But for the grace of God (or at least The Traveller), Wesley could've been in VOY instead of Harry. I wonder which one we would prefer?

 

[Guy Gardener]

They were both super geniuses, but Wesley tied to get into Starfleet in 2364, so Wes would have been out in 2368 if he had got in. Kim got out in 2371, which means that he failed to get in three times (Once per year you can try? Wikipedia confirms. But it seems you can only reapply if your scores are very high.) or he was screwing around for 3 years when other kids were passing to their psych tests... 19 year old Harry Kim was competing against 16 year olds trying to get into the academy? Fish in a barrel?

I think Tasha was 13 when she got into the Academy.

Something about being an Orphan.

Riker was quite young too.

Gotta wonder what the #### was up with Worf if he was physically and emotionally an adult by his 7th birthday.

Did he bum around for a decade?

 

[Zippo and Flask]

whine: complain in a feeble or petulant way
petulant: childishly sulky or bad-tempered

I nominate Ensign Ro Laren

 

[Captain Kathryn]

I don't know...Kim never struck me as whiny per se. He's incredibly desperate for approval, is a mama's boy hardcore, REALLY wants a girlfriend, is very optimistic, and is heroic on occasion. He definitely has faults, but aside from "The Disease" (in which I really think he THOUGHT he was in love), I don't really see him as whiny.

I still argue that Riker and some other men in Starfleet wouldn't have ever "asked for permission" before engaging in intimate relations with an alien woman. So why should Harry have to? Pssssst...

 

[Guy Gardener]

There's a line I like about sex with aliens.

"3 days later, his genitals fell off and he shat his brain out the new hole."

Riker almost got kicked out of Starfleet for trying to date a woman with completely incompatible sex organs Starfleet banned him from shtupping her.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

There's a line I like about sex with aliens.

"3 days later, his genitals fell off and he shat his brain out the new hole."

Riker almost got kicked out of Starfleet for trying to date a woman with completely incompatible sex organs Starfleet banned him from shtupping her.

Was that the girl who was actually not a girl but a sort of androgynous person?

My TNG knowledge is a bit nil...

This person:

 

[Lance]

I always wondered what happened to Libby.

Did she wait for Harry for seven years, only to discover that lover-boy had been getting sweaty palms over the likes of Lyndsey Ballard, Seven of Nine and Derran Tal in the meanwhile? Not to mention the Delaney Quintriplets?

At least Cap'n Kathy got forward warning that Mark had left her for someone else. Harry's in-box just had a letter from his parents asking if he'd gotten promoted yet and why not, as well as whatever the 24th century equivalent of spam mail is.

Did Libby forget Harry, or did Harry forget Libby?

 

[Guy Gardener]

They were friends in the after novels.

But the actress still smelt of Michael Dorn, so I don't know how anyone could have taken the relationship seriously.

(TNG Birthright)

 

[F. King Daniel]

He's read Starfleet protocol and procedure, so he knows why he shouldn't just plug it in every green alien that comes along like some other yellow jacketed captain.

This is exactly why he was pissed. In Trek's world, kids learn about Kirk in school. Now he gets out into space, and Janeway gets mad at him do the same things that his hero did? I got pissed at that! He didn't whine, he was mad!

 

[Guy Gardener]

Do I have to post the youtube of Kirk pissing confetti again?