Iron Man 2 Casting Call for April 2009

[Captain Craig]

Snipets from a casting call sheet for April 2009 have appeared online.

[FONT=Arial][MALE LEAD]
30s, Eastern European, brilliant, gritty...

[FEMALE LEAD]
20s, beautiful, speaks several languages fluently and is equally proficient in martial arts...

[BRUISER]
Russian, 20s or 30s, at least 6'2", able to perform own stunts, has the build of a MMA fighter...[/FONT]

Mandarin, Black Widow, Crimson Dynamo?

The Avengers need some ladies and if Wasp isn't there then introducing Black Widow here is a good idea.

Of course maybe these aren't the characters, maybe they are just other characters. What do you think?

 

[Cain]

Yvonne Strahovski of Chuck fame would be perfect as Black Widow. She already plays a spy, speaks several languages, kicks ass, and saying she's hot is an understatement.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

she's australian....

 

[Cain]

She's also fluent in Polish.

 

[Hermiod]

/mumbles something about people getting Black Widow and still no Ms. Marvel even though it's supposed to be an Avengers movie and she's the leader...

 

[captcalhoun]

she's not the leader. she's a SHIELD agent who babysits Captain Marvel.

if Black Widow's not introduced in IM2, i'd bet on her being in Avengers as a SHIELD operative ala Ultimate BW. a defector who's a spy and part of the black ops unit. possibly with Hawkeye and Mockingbird.

 

[Hermiod]

she's not the leader. she's a SHIELD agent who babysits Captain Marvel.

At the start she was, sure. Now, in 2008, she's the leader of the Avengers.

 

[Cicero]

she's not the leader. she's a SHIELD agent who babysits Captain Marvel.

At the start she was, sure. Now, in 2008, she's the leader of the Avengers.

She is leader in name only of the fake (government) Avengers. Not only is her team a pretender to the title of Avengers which belongs to the survivors of Captain America's team (the New/Secret Avengers and Young Avengers), but Iron Man has taken personal command of "her" team from almost the start. (I do like Carol, in theory. Practice has left much to be desired.)

 

[CaptainCanada]

"Pretender" to the title? Given that Iron Man owns that, and their team deals with far more Avengers-related stuff, I doubt that.

I can't see how the first would refer to the Mandarin, who is Chinese, not Eastern European. The female role, if it's a name character, definitely sounds like Black Widow.

 

[Cicero]

"Pretender" to the title? Given that Iron Man owns that, and their team deals with far more Avengers-related stuff, I doubt that.

He doesn't. He disbanded his Avengers, and supported Captain America's reestablishment of the team (in New Avengers). As I will continue to see it, Captain America's team are the rightful holders of the title, until they or he (Steve Rogers) say otherwise.

I'll admit I'm a partisan of Civil War. It could be worse; my teenage sister gave up all comics when Captain America surrendered. To this day, she hates Joss Whedon and Marvel for what happened at the end of Civil War. As much as she loves Firefly, Spider-Girl, and the X-Men, she'll touch none of them until there's an apology (which there won't be) or what happened is undone and those responsible no longer work at Marvel (aside from Mark Millar, whom she forgave when I mentioned to her that he was British). Someone would have to tell her these things had happened, though, because she doesn't listen to anything coming from Whedon or Marvel now.

An image I use as a signature elsewhere, starting about two years ago:

 

[Thrall]

she's not the leader. she's a SHIELD agent who babysits Captain Marvel.

At the start she was, sure. Now, in 2008, she's the leader of the Avengers.

There's only one true leader of The Avengers, and that's Steve Rogers.

Comparing 2008 Avengers to The Classic Avengers is like comparing The Justice League:The Detroit Years to The Real Justice League. This is the same team that killed off or got rid of all the good characters and put nobodies like Luke Cage, Spider-Woman, The Sentry(I don't care how powerful he is, he's still a nobody) on the roster. And Ms. Marvel is Bendis's answer to Power Girl. Except Power Girl has a personality.

No, it should be the classic lineup and only the classic lineup. Black Widow would be awesome, but I hope they don't do what Millar did in The Ultimates and turn her evil. Ken Wantanbe would be brilliant as The Mandarin but I think that maybe his time as Ra's Al Ghul would be too much comic book movie work for him.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

If Black Widow doesn't have to be in her 20s, Hillary Swank would be ideal for the role. Beautiful, smart, tough as nails.

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

Could the female be Madame Masque? Or Madame Hydra or Viper or whatever her name is?

Whatever the case, I'm sure if the character is brunette, they'll cast a blonde, and if the character is a blonde they'll cast Lucy Liu.

 

[JuanBolio]

Somehow I don't think The Mandarin would be cast as eastern European...

 

[Anwar]

Yep, I'm guessing they have both Crimson Dynamo AND Titanium Man in IM2, seeing how there have been so many Crimson Dynamos (not all of whom are Russian) they can pass one off as "Eastern European".

 

[Hermiod]

She is leader in name only of the fake (government) Avengers. Not only is her team a pretender to the title of Avengers which belongs to the survivors of Captain America's team (the New/Secret Avengers and Young Avengers), but Iron Man has taken personal command of "her" team from almost the start. (I do like Carol, in theory. Practice has left much to be desired.)

Stark runs the Initiative, it's his show. The Avengers, however, are her team.

As for the "fake" part, as much as I don't like it, the pro-Reg guys won. They are the Avengers. Tony Stark has a lot more to say about who the "real" Avengers are than Luke Cage does. None of the current New Avengers were around on day one. Plus he's the guy that paid the bills for years.

Oh, and I would hardly call Marvel's most popular character a "nobody". Cap wouldn't, neither should anybody else. I've seen Spidey whip the X-Men, the Fantastic Four and the Avengers on his own.

 

[Thrall]

Oh, and I would hardly call Marvel's most popular character a "nobody". Cap wouldn't, neither should anybody else. I've seen Spidey whip the X-Men, the Fantastic Four and the Avengers on his own.

I didn't mention Spider-Man. He's been a reserve member for years. I still think he's too weak(mainly emotionally) to be a real Avenger. He's been doing the superhero gig for years, but he's still as whinny, self-pitting, and underachieving as always.

And isn't Wolverine Marvel's most popular character? If not they sure act like it. And I think having him as a member is stupid. You might as well have Venom or The Punisher join the team while you're at it. Because with those you might have a case. The Punisher has kicked Parkers ass many times over. By that standard he's Avenger material.

 

[Hermiod]

I didn't mention Spider-Man. He's been a reserve member for years. I still think he's too weak(mainly emotionally) to be a real Avenger. He's been doing the superhero gig for years, but he's still as whinny, self-pitting, and underachieving as always.

I misread your post, I thought you said -Man not -Woman. Sorry.

I think it's fairly obvious now why Bendis chose Spider-Woman to be an Avenger.

That said, Spider-Man was ready. JMS put him in a place where he could be a "grown-up" superhero. Then BND made him a loser again.

And isn't Wolverine Marvel's most popular character? If not they sure act like it.

No, Spider-Man is and probably always will be the number one guy for Marvel.

And I think having him as a member is stupid. You might as well have Venom or The Punisher join the team while you're at it. Because with those you might have a case. The Punisher has kicked Parkers ass many times over.

Well, Venom's part of the Initiative and supposedly one of the good guys now.

The Punisher proved during the Civil War why he's not Avenger material and never will be.

By that standard he's Avenger material.

When they formed the New Avengers, Captain America told Spider-Man that every time he's seen him fight he's been amazing. Amazing, his word, not mine. In simple in universe terms, if Captain America says you're good enough then that's the defining standard, isn't it ?

As for Wolverine, the Avengers just replaced him with Ares - their all-in-one Thor and Wolverine. Though, I like what they've done with Ares, actually.

 

[Thrall]

I misread your post, I thought you said -Man not -Woman. Sorry.

It's all good brother.

I think it's fairly obvious now why Bendis chose Spider-Woman to be an Avenger.

Bendis is the anti-Johns IMO. Johns always changes things for the better and pays attention to continuity and mythology. Bendis, the exact opposite. That being said, there is no way he could ever make the character interesting to me. He's as bad as Claremont was with Storm. Except Storm was very popular.

That said, Spider-Man was ready. JMS put him in a place where he could be a "grown-up" superhero. Then BND made him a loser again.

I quit JMS out of protest towards the Gwen Stacy thing and the whole year he spent trying to break up Peter and Mary Jane. It's not surprising that Spider-Man 3 sucked because that whole Peter/MJ dramafest was right out of his run. I'll never read another thing he writes or is associated with. And I love Clint Eastwood films, but I'm skipping The Changeling just for that reason. It's kind of weird and obsessively geeky, I know, but I just don't want to be associated in any way with the guy who trashed Gwen Stacy.

No, Spider-Man is and probably always will be the number one guy for Marvel.

I wish someone would tell Quesada that. Because the Wolverine overkill has ruined my like for the character.

The Punisher proved during the Civil War why he's not Avenger material and never will be.

Well that was Mark Millar's terrible take on him. But otherwise I agree with you.

When they formed the New Avengers, Captain America told Spider-Man that every time he's seen him fight he's been amazing. Amazing, his word, not mine. In simple in universe terms, if Captain America says you're good enough then that's the defining standard, isn't it ?

I've always thought Peter was Avenger material, so long as he manned up and stopped being such a little girl about stuff. It was Wolverine I had a problem being an Avenger.

 

[Hermiod]

Bendis is the anti-Johns IMO. Johns always changes things for the better and pays attention to continuity and mythology. Bendis, the exact opposite. That being said, there is no way he could ever make the character interesting to me. He's as bad as Claremont was with Storm. Except Storm was very popular.

I liked Bendis' Spider-Woman, or at least the person we thought was Spider-Woman. So much so that despite the fact that it was staring me in the face, I refused to accept that she was Veranke.

I quit JMS out of protest towards the Gwen Stacy thing and the whole year he spent trying to break up Peter and Mary Jane. It's not surprising that Spider-Man 3 sucked because that whole Peter/MJ dramafest was right out of his run. I'll never read another thing he writes or is associated with. And I love Clint Eastwood films, but I'm skipping The Changeling just for that reason. It's kind of weird and obsessively geeky, I know, but I just don't want to be associated in any way with the guy who trashed Gwen Stacy.

I hated the Gwen Stacy thing too, but by the end JMS made Peter and MJ a proper couple again, he made Aunt May more useful and interesting than she'd ever been, he turned Peter in to a grown up. Before JMS came along, whenever Spider-Man and another character would fight, the other character would attack Spider-Man thinking that he was behind whatever the villain they would end up teaming up against was up to.

I've always thought Peter was Avenger material, so long as he manned up and stopped being such a little girl about stuff. It was Wolverine I had a problem being an Avenger.

As I said, Peter had grown up, then BND made him a useless loser again.