Interesting tidbits on IMDB - Potential Spoilers

[Vektor]

So, I happened to be perusing the info for Star Trek on IMDB this afternoon and noticed a few cast credits that I hadn't heard about before. I keep pretty close track of new information, both factual and rumored, but I don't claim to be up on every last detail of the production, so nobody lynch me if you've already heard this stuff elsewhere.

And yes, I'm aware that IMDB is not always the most reliable source and that many things are subject to change, so take this for what it's worth.

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"Uncle Frank" - Brad William Henke
A relative of Kirk's? George Sr.'s brother?

"Romulan CO" - Lucia Rijker
CO presumably denoting Commanding Officer, presumably of a Romulan ship. We've heard a fair amount about Nero and his gang but little about other Romulan characters.

"Vulcan Bully #1" - Lorenzo James Henrie
"Vulcan Bully #2" - Colby Paul
A pair of Vulcan bullies? Are we getting a "Yesteryear" style flashback to Spock's youth with other Vulcan children taunting him for being half-human?

"Kelvin Alien #1" - Kasia Kowalczyk
Kelvin!!?? As in the aliens from the Andromeda galaxy who tried to hijack the Enterprise way back in the TOS episode By Any Other Name (who were actually called "Kelvans" but it's an easy spelling error)? If so, how in the world might they tie in to the plot of this movie?

There are quite a few other characters on the cast page that I hadn't heard of before but those are the ones that jumped out at me as significant.

Discuss.

 

[T J]

That's weird.

 

[Michael]

Uncle Frank makes for a good screen name for the BBS.

 

[Lumen]

Is the cast list on iMDB reliable? Is there any independent media confirming this? Anything from the producers or writers?

 

[Gepard]

Is the cast list on iMDB reliable? Is there any independent media confirming this? Anything from the producers or writers?

The short answer is "no."

The longer answer is . . . still "no," actually.

Carry on!

 

[maryh]

"Vulcan Bully #1" - Lorenzo James Henrie
"Vulcan Bully #2" - Colby Paul
A pair of Vulcan bullies? Are we getting a "Yesteryear" style flashback to Spock's youth with other Vulcan children taunting him for being half-human?

Now that really will cause problems because in TAS "Yesteryear" Spock goes back in time to save himself. I hope this Spock isn't going to go back in time and watch the younger Spock go back in time to save the youngest Spock. Now that really would stomp a time lord and pose some strange questions.

Lets hope the bullies are based upon Amanda's comment in "Journey to Babel" about Spock being teased by the other boys for not being real - and that TAS remains non-canon.

I always did think those Kelvans gave up too easily though.

 

[Michael]

Lets hope the bullies are based upon Amanda's comment in "Journey to Babel" about Spock being teased by the other boys for not being real - and that TAS remains non-canon.

You might not agree, but Yesteryear is widely considered canon.

 

[M'Sharak]

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"Uncle Frank" - Brad William Henke
A relative of Kirk's? George Sr.'s brother?

"Romulan CO" - Lucia Rijker
CO presumably denoting Commanding Officer, presumably of a Romulan ship. We've heard a fair amount about Nero and his gang but little about other Romulan characters.

"Vulcan Bully #1" - Lorenzo James Henrie
"Vulcan Bully #2" - Colby Paul
A pair of Vulcan bullies? Are we getting a "Yesteryear" style flashback to Spock's youth with other Vulcan children taunting him for being half-human?

"Kelvin Alien #1" - Kasia Kowalczyk
Kelvin!!?? As in the aliens from the Andromeda galaxy who tried to hijack the Enterprise way back in the TOS episode By Any Other Name (who were actually called "Kelvans" but it's an easy spelling error)? If so, how in the world might they tie in to the plot of this movie?

Of those, I recall seeing a question asked here a week or so back about a rumored appearance by Kasia Kowalczyk as "Kelvin Alien #1. I believe that the person posing the question had seen her name on IMDb's cast list. At the time, TrekMovie.com had nothing, so I treated it with a measure of skepticism.

[Edit: that previous thread here, for what it's worth]

Is the cast list on iMDB reliable? Is there any independent media confirming this? Anything from the producers or writers?

The short answer is "no."

The longer answer is . . . still "no," actually.

Slightly longer than that: Once a movie is in general release and the cast list checked and verified, IMDb is reasonably reliable, if less then unassailable. At this early stage, however, I'd take them with a grain of salt (at the very least) as a source of information about the movie. They did have Capt. Robau's name correctly spelled before anyone else, but that isn't something I'd count on from them all of the time.

 

[Gepard]

Is the cast list on iMDB reliable? Is there any independent media confirming this? Anything from the producers or writers?

The short answer is "no."

The longer answer is . . . still "no," actually.

Slightly longer than that: Once a movie is in general release and the cast list checked and verified, IMDb is reasonably reliable, if less then unassailable. At this early stage, however, I'd take them with a grain of salt (at the very least) as a source of information about the movie. They did have Capt. Robau's name correctly spelled before anyone else, but that isn't something I'd count on from them all of the time.

So, in other words, given the lack of independent confirmation...no.

 

[M'Sharak]

Pretty much, yeah.

 

[T'Cal]

Lets hope the bullies are based upon Amanda's comment in "Journey to Babel" about Spock being teased by the other boys for not being real - and that TAS remains non-canon.

You might not agree, but Yesteryear is widely considered canon.

Making a scene from a single episode of TAS doesn't canonize the entire series, although would that be so bad? It certainly sounds like that scene from TAS's Yesteryear displayed what was merely described in TOS's JtB.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

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^^^Right --

If something like the Yesteryear scene ends up in this film, then that scene in the film becomes canon -- not Yesteryear. The Vulcan bullies beating up on Spock will become canon because it's in the film, not because it was part if Yesteryear (although some could argue that Yesteryear IS canon -- but that's not my point).

Let's look at it this way: If Orci takes a fact from a novel and puts it in this film (which he has hinted will be the case), then that fact taken from the novel will be canon because it's in the film. The inclusion of that fact in the film simply makes that fact canon, not that whole novel.

 

[Michael]

Lets hope the bullies are based upon Amanda's comment in "Journey to Babel" about Spock being teased by the other boys for not being real - and that TAS remains non-canon.

You might not agree, but Yesteryear is widely considered canon.

Making a scene from a single episode of TAS doesn't canonize the entire series

Where did I say that?

 

[Franklin]

And don't forget Tony Guma, as "the bartender."

I noticed this and posted about it some time back. It's "Kelvan," too, not "Kelvin" as they have it. So someone copied it incorrectly, or made it up wrong as they went along.
This does create some interesting rumors about cast and potential scenes, though. Might be all it's for.

 

[M'Sharak]

You might not agree, but Yesteryear is widely considered canon.

Making a scene from a single episode of TAS doesn't canonize the entire series

Where did I say that?

You didn't.

I noticed this and posted about it some time back. It's "Kelvan," too, not "Kelvin" as they have it. So someone copied it incorrectly, or made it up wrong as they went along.

Or it's something entirely unrelated to the extragalactic and polyhedrally*-inclined hijackers from "By Any Other Name" -- we've had other instances throughout Trek of similarly- or identically-spelled names which logically can't be referring to the same thing. It would perhaps be unnecessarily confusing, from a writing/scorekeeping standpoint, but hardly unprecedented.

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^^^Right --

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Okay, I've seen some schemes for carets indicating particular preceding posts, but this looks complicated.


* It's geometrically inaccurate, of course, but did anyone else at any time refer to the Kelvan-distilled Uhura as a "Communicube"?

 

[maryh]

You might not agree, but Yesteryear is widely considered canon.

Making a scene from a single episode of TAS doesn't canonize the entire series

Where did I say that?

I'm just trying to avoid the issue of having 2 similtaneous time travelers being the same person. It will be hard to fathom that one. I don't object to the customs and culture associated with Yesteryear, rather I see problems with the time travel aspect.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Making a scene from a single episode of TAS doesn't canonize the entire series

Where did I say that?

I'm just trying to avoid the issue of having 2 similtaneous time travelers being the same person. It will be hard to fathom that one. I don't object to the customs and culture associated with Yesteryear, rather I see problems with the time travel aspect.

If Spock was bullied as a child, I'm sure it happened more than once...and by that I mean on more occasions than were witnessed by "Cousin Selek".

Plus, who's to say that Nimoy's Spock or Quinto's Spock will even be in the "adolescent Spock being bullied" scene. It could simply (and most likely) be a scene from adolescent Spock's life that gives us, the audience, some insight into the character, and may have nothing to do with timetravel.

 

[NiteTrek]

Kelvin!!?? As in the aliens from the Andromeda galaxy who tried to hijack the Enterprise way back in the TOS episode By Any Other Name (who were actually called "Kelvans" but it's an easy spelling error)? If so, how in the world might they tie in to the plot of this movie?

A young cadet Kirk is at the Academy having lunch when he finds out that the croutons on his salad are really some of his classmates (thanks to the Kelvans) - you'll have to wait until the movie is released before you find out how many of them he ate.