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Independence Day (Discussion/Grading)

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Not just one of the best movies of the 90s, but one of the best movies of all time!

"Good morning.

"In less than an hour, aircraft from here will join others from around the world, and you will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind. Mankind...that word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences any more. We will be united in our common interest.

"Perhaps it's fate that today is the 4th of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution, but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live, to exist, and should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice, 'We will not go quietly into the night!' We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on, we're going to survive. Today we celebrate our independence day!"

-President Thomas Whitmore
July 4th, 1996

'Nuff said!
 
Not just one of the best movies of the 90s, but one of the best movies of all time!

"Good morning.

"In less than an hour, aircraft from here will join others from around the world, and you will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind. Mankind...that word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences any more. We will be united in our common interest.

"Perhaps it's fate that today is the 4th of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution, but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live, to exist, and should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice, 'We will not go quietly into the night!' We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on, we're going to survive. Today we celebrate our independence day!"

-President Thomas Whitmore
July 4th, 1996

'Nuff said!
And it even made Jayne from Firefly feel patriotic! :bolian:
 
I think the build up and beginning of the movie is great. Not popcorn movie great, but genuinely great. Then you get the big destruction scene (the effects of which still hold up, unlike in Emmerich's later disasters like Godzilla and Day After Tomorrow), and after that it degrades quickly into cheese... but fun cheese!
 
I like it, but I just wish the writers and director had picked a tone and stuck with it. There are some genuinely dramatic moments and some genuinely cheesy moments. It could have been two different films, one drama and one comedy. Either way would have been fine. But as it is, it's kind of a mishmash. I still enjoy it nonetheless.
 
What struck me was the battle. My mind kept saying they wouldn't be short of pilots they would be short of planes
 
ID4 is one of those movies that most people loved when it came out, then somewhere along the way it became "cool" to hate it, now it seems that it's become cool to admit that you liked it all along.

I love it. It's a big, dumb, action-y, roller coaster movie and doesn't pretend otherwise.
It's not cool to like a movie that other people think is cool. Which would it make it uncool, and therefore cool to like.
 
I always thought it was a fun "popcorn flick". Just a loud B-movie disaster flick with excellent special effects, score (David Arnold), and some fun scenes, particularly with Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum. Brent Spiner turned in an interesting performance as a demented Area 51 scientist as well. Also, Bill Pullman did an unexpectedly good turn as the President- his "call to arms" right before the final battle was actually quite inspiring. :techman:
 
It's puff pastry -- fun and good-looking puff pastry, though. My opinion is the same as the day I walked out of the theater: if it had come out when I was 14 or 15 I'd have worshipped the ground it walked on. Unfortunately I was in my 30s and thus could tell everything that was going to happen before it did. It was fun but not world-shaking.

The use of REM's "The End of the World As We Know It" was a master-stroke...

...and once the Prez hops into a jet you have to just light your disbelief on fire and throw it out the window. :lol:

It's basically an sf version of Rocky. :D
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Anyone that likes ID4 must (MUST!) get the Limited Edition DVD. It's worth it just for the extra 3 minutes of Brent Spiner. It also makes Russel Case and his family make a whole lot more sense and a lot less cheesy.
 
Anyone that likes ID4 must (MUST!) get the Limited Edition DVD. It's worth it just for the extra 3 minutes of Brent Spiner. It also makes Russel Case and his family make a whole lot more sense and a lot less cheesy.

I'm pretty sure every DVD release of the movie has the extended cut on it. It's the second disc with the special features (including the biplane ending) that's the hard one to track down because Fox couldn't make up their mind about how they wanted to sell the damn thing.
 
Gee do you think V was the insperation for this along with other movies.
I gave it above an average rating.
anyhow glad they didn't use the alternate ending that would have sucked!
 
Anyone that likes ID4 must (MUST!) get the Limited Edition DVD. It's worth it just for the extra 3 minutes of Brent Spiner. It also makes Russel Case and his family make a whole lot more sense and a lot less cheesy.

I'm pretty sure every DVD release of the movie has the extended cut on it. It's the second disc with the special features (including the biplane ending) that's the hard one to track down because Fox couldn't make up their mind about how they wanted to sell the damn thing.

The Blu-Ray edition, as far as I've been able to figure out, doesn't have the director's cut. Besides, I don't assume everyone here has seen it on DVD.
 
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