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Inconsistency in 'Unexpected'.

tobindax

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Commodore
After the all time classic trek blooper 'Where are the seat belts?' concept that passed as a joke in the first episode in a rather canning way, they showed something in a later episode that at first glance seemed ok but now that I watched it again it striked me as an important inconsistency of logic: The gravity goes off and the bridge sounds normal and calm saying to the captain oh no problem, it'll be back soon; in a humorous way the captain falls off the shower and lands on its base unharmed. Well, come to think of it that was a serious security situation. What if one falls on a sharp object or at least the corner of a table? That's serious business losing gravity. It's how people get killed in airplanes in high turbulence and why passengers are asked to wear seat belts.
 
Well, I've never experienced severe turbulence in an airplane, but I would think that the injuries there are caused by slamming into the interior walls and ceiling as the plane suddenly loses altitude. The NX-01 wasn't experiencing turbulence. In one area of the ship, the gravity had been disrupted. Ceilings in the ship were low, so even if someone were to drift all the way to the ceiling, they wouldn't be so far from the floor that they would be at risk of serious injury.
 
...Of course, if the ship were to undertake the slightest maneuver when a section was without gravity, the people in that section would be turned to pulp by the accelerations involved. That is, if gravity and inertia canceling are handled by the same machinery.

The light tone would be befitting a situation where no maneuvers were planned, though.

Timo Saloniemi
 
^ I don't think the slightest maneuver would be enough to pulp people, acceleration to warp speed probbly would though.
 
Wouldn't it be standard procedure to warn everyone when the gravity was being turned back on? Or was the return of the gravity unplanned, I can't remember that part of the episode.

Charlie
 
...Of course, if the ship were to undertake the slightest maneuver when a section was without gravity, the people in that section would be turned to pulp by the accelerations involved. That is, if gravity and inertia canceling are handled by the same machinery.

The light tone would be befitting a situation where no maneuvers were planned, though.

I'm pretty sure that the inertial dampening system, which is what ensures the crew aren't turned to mush when it travels are a separate system considering it's importance.

^ I don't think the slightest maneuver would be enough to pulp people, acceleration to warp speed probbly would though.

Slightest manoeuvres, as in a little thruster burst maybe, but even impulse speeds would provide the aft bulkheads with a new paintjob if they accelerate quick enough.

We see it in 'Babel One' (I believe) when a slight move of the Romulan drone ship without it's dampeners in place sends Trip and Malcolm careening down a very long corridor.
 
Wouldn't it be standard procedure to warn everyone when the gravity was being turned back on? Or was the return of the gravity unplanned, I can't remember that part of the episode.

Charlie

They expected to have the Gravity restored pretty quickly, Archer seemed to be off his feet for less than a minute. It was more of a glitch than a total systems failure, possibly not necessitating a full annoncement.
 
^ I don't think the slightest maneuver would be enough to pulp people

Let's remember that starships are typically a couple of hundred meters long. When one fires thrusters (or uses internal gyros or gravitics or whatnot) to effect a slight turn, the momentum arm of the turn is immense - the accelerations won't be in the hundreds or thousands of gees associated with impulse drive, but they will still be dozens, which will break a lot of bones. Just take a look at how far you are from the nearest wall when reading this; imagine that it now becomes the floor instead. Now increase the force of impact tenfold. What is left of you?

Timo Saloniemi
 
^ I don't think the slightest maneuver would be enough to pulp people
Let's remember that starships are typically a couple of hundred meters long. When one fires thrusters (or uses internal gyros or gravitics or whatnot) to effect a slight turn, the momentum arm of the turn is immense - the accelerations won't be in the hundreds or thousands of gees associated with impulse drive, but they will still be dozens, which will break a lot of bones. Just take a look at how far you are from the nearest wall when reading this; imagine that it now becomes the floor instead. Now increase the force of impact tenfold. What is left of you?

Timo Saloniemi

My point exactly. And now you've got me scared of my own walls. :techman:
 
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