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On Lower Decks,Tom Paris had his own commemorative plate!
On Lower Decks,Tom Paris had his own commemorative plate!
In Star Trek, Every Main Character Is A Celebrity
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Well, yes. They are the rock stars of their era. It seems that its core, fame in the Trek universe is about it that the person matters rather than any relation to accumulation of wealth.
A net benefit of celebrity is that also leads to accountability to prevent them from going down the path of a badmiral. I realize that the article argues that fame and a need for recognition corrupts like money and power. But it seems much less likely in the Star Trek universe when they are a famous name.
A net benefit of celebrity is that also leads to accountability to prevent them from going down the path of a badmiral. I realize that the article argues that fame and a need for recognition corrupts like money and power. But it seems much less likely in the Star Trek universe when they are a famous name.
Makes sense, since the scale of the stories makes them into historical figures. Even Riker referred to seeing Malcolm (I think) as "larger than life"
I'm not surprised. Tom Paris was the pilot who got Voyager home. Voyager became a major project at the start of the Pathfinder mission, and when it was successful, I'm sure everyone became a celebrity. I actually didn't like how the Federation treated 7 because they should have given her a medal.
Depends how seriously you take Lower Decks. Like, do you REALLY think Mr Data bubble baths are likely and plausible in-universe? They're poking fun at real-life Trek merch and collectors. I remember ads for the actual Trek commemorative plates.
“Mr. Data Bubble Bath: For Skin as Smooth as an Android’s Bottom”
I think an Enterprising individual like Quark would make Data/Lore bubble bath if he thought there was money in it.
Since commerce was invented I guess there have been bizarre, crappy products of some kind. I don’t find it implausible in the slightest.
Since commerce was invented I guess there have been bizarre, crappy products of some kind. I don’t find it implausible in the slightest.
Well, Boimler is definitely NOT a celebrity. At one point it turned out that the gang of Lower Decks are "legends" among other ship's own lower decks, but Boimler's reputation is that he's a robot!
I disagree that every main character is a celebrity...or if they are, some of them are the kind of celebrity that people forget all about.
In Trials and Tribble-ations, after all the fawning over the-legend-that-is-Kirk by our time-travelers, we get to the scene where Sisko knows who McCoy is only by guessing, and Dax has to wrack her brain to remember where she knows him from.
In Trials and Tribble-ations, after all the fawning over the-legend-that-is-Kirk by our time-travelers, we get to the scene where Sisko knows who McCoy is only by guessing, and Dax has to wrack her brain to remember where she knows him from.
Likely? Eh, probably not. Plausible? Absolutely!
Exactly. And given that the celebration of the Federation is the bettering of oneself and humanity crews such as the Enterprise crew would definitely be celebrated.
Half of celebrity, one could argue, is parasocial connection. I can absolutely believe there are many people in the Star Trek universe who admire and look up to the main characters we see. I can believe there are kids daydreaming, maybe even writing fic, about La Forge marveling over their engineering expertise or T’Pol saying they’re the most logical human she’s ever met or Sisko adopting them or any number of things. I can believe there are people name dropping them, “You don’t want to even think about selling me an inferior isodyne relay, I know B'Elanna Torres personally!” I can also believe there are people out there who are sighing and swooning over whatever member of whichever ship’s (or station’s) crew caught their eye.
Now, as the article argues, the examples I gave are just a minuscule percent of Starfleet but, there’s a vast galaxy of potential fans out there. Take, for instance, baseball teams. You can be an enormous fan of a team and be part of a booming market for their merchandise and yet not know anything about another team’s members at all, despite them being celebrities in their own right.
There are also a myriad of reasons for people to latch onto a favorite. Maybe more people from your archipelago are on one ship. Or, (especially in the case of less populated or newly discovered worlds) maybe there’s a ship with more people from your planet on it. Maybe the first of your kind to ever make captain pilots your favorite ship. Or maybe you just think the crew of some random Cali-class starship are the most attractive in Starfleet. Whatever we focus on, we tend to assume others do too so, maybe the parts dealer has no idea who B'Elanna Torres is, you’re still going to name drop. Maybe no one else in your class knows who La Forge or T’Pol or Sisko is, your daydreams still provide you with comfort or happiness. Maybe none of your besties get how dreamy Joseph M'Benga is, but you’re not going to stop sighing over him.
Infinite sentient beings, infinite objects of affection.
Now, as the article argues, the examples I gave are just a minuscule percent of Starfleet but, there’s a vast galaxy of potential fans out there. Take, for instance, baseball teams. You can be an enormous fan of a team and be part of a booming market for their merchandise and yet not know anything about another team’s members at all, despite them being celebrities in their own right.
There are also a myriad of reasons for people to latch onto a favorite. Maybe more people from your archipelago are on one ship. Or, (especially in the case of less populated or newly discovered worlds) maybe there’s a ship with more people from your planet on it. Maybe the first of your kind to ever make captain pilots your favorite ship. Or maybe you just think the crew of some random Cali-class starship are the most attractive in Starfleet. Whatever we focus on, we tend to assume others do too so, maybe the parts dealer has no idea who B'Elanna Torres is, you’re still going to name drop. Maybe no one else in your class knows who La Forge or T’Pol or Sisko is, your daydreams still provide you with comfort or happiness. Maybe none of your besties get how dreamy Joseph M'Benga is, but you’re not going to stop sighing over him.
Infinite sentient beings, infinite objects of affection.
Nature of the beast really. TV shows always sort of "mythologize" their main casts as the best of best and become accordingly famous. Particularly in shows where the cast always end up saving the world on a frequent basis.
Yeah, in any field, there are famous people who fellow practitioners admire or know of, either because they share connections, such as fellow school alumni/former instructors, or they're people whose works they've studied/emulated. They could have been said to remind someone of a young so and so, or won an award named after them.
Or perhaps the famous person is the first/most well known member of your species/citizen of your planet, etc, for people who want to see those that look like/are like them in fields they aspire to.
Or perhaps the famous person is the first/most well known member of your species/citizen of your planet, etc, for people who want to see those that look like/are like them in fields they aspire to.
Well, you have some characters involved in major news events - like the crew of the E-D during the Borg invasion. They're going to talk about Locutus and brave Captain Riker in the press. Data is probably discussed in every school when they talk about different species and artificial life forms. Worf is the first Klingon in Starfleet. Crusher and LaForge are probably known in their fields, but not in the press at large. Deanna is probably not well known.
Kirk and Spock, maybe Sulu were well known for their professional accomplishments. Chekov, Uhura, Scotty probably weren't household names. McCoy may have been mentioned sometimes in conjunction with K and S, but probably was only known among medical doctors.
Sisko and probably Odo would be the famous ones. Kira is probably locally known on Bajor, but maybe not in the Federation at large. Nog was the first Ferengi in Starfleet and Quark eventually got a franchise going, so maybe some recognition there. O'Brien was of course the most important person in history, basically.
Kirk and Spock, maybe Sulu were well known for their professional accomplishments. Chekov, Uhura, Scotty probably weren't household names. McCoy may have been mentioned sometimes in conjunction with K and S, but probably was only known among medical doctors.
Sisko and probably Odo would be the famous ones. Kira is probably locally known on Bajor, but maybe not in the Federation at large. Nog was the first Ferengi in Starfleet and Quark eventually got a franchise going, so maybe some recognition there. O'Brien was of course the most important person in history, basically.
I guess it depends on who you ask and where you live.
Perhaps on her home world, being the Daughter of Lwaxana, & perhaps in some diplomacy circles, which wouldn't put her in any scope of celebrity that is grander than just having been a main crew member of Picard's
What I like to think about at least Scotty & McCoy, as well as LaForge, Beverly Crusher & Kate Pulaski is that they probably have textbook notoriety, as some of the best experts in their fields, at a certain point in history. They might also have a bit of relevance historically as people present for history making events, but that's about it imho
Travesty Badweather or something like that.
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