in 6x26, tears of the prophets...(uniforn question)

[dHunter333]

when the romulans arrive, and starfleet, klingons, and romulans are discussion the battle (martok and the romulan arguing)
there is a starfleet captain or what not standing in the backround wearing the tng (seasons 3-7) style uniform
everyone else is in grey uniform

whats up with that?

 

[ialfan]

Actually there appears to be three people in the scene in the old style uniforms. I would guess it was a budget issue with no real in-universe explanation. I think this was the last DS9 episodes that used the old uniforms.

 

[nx1701g]

It is possible that they were officers on deep space assignments and hadn't switched over to the new uniforms. We did see in Generations crewmembers wearing both the TNG and DS9 styled uniforms (pre-First Contact). Maybe there were some ships still using the old ones.

 

[jgdst]

I've heard some people reason that the particular variant of the uniform is up to the commanding officer - hence why DS9 wore the jumpsuit, active vessels wore the TNG style and the E-D in Generations wore both. It could also be the same reason Admiral Ross is seen wearing a TNG style admiral's uniform for his first few appearances.

Then again, like ialfan said, it could just be down to budgeting

It's a bit odd though, as the new uniforms gave the show a darker feel, and to see one of the old style "colourful" uniforms suddenly pop up out of nowhere was a bit out of place

 

[Timo]

It's a bit difficult to understand how there could be a shortage of ST:FC style uniforms there, as the scene doesn't really include more people than there were in average ST:FC scenes, and the suits on those "TotP" background people wouldn't have to be exact fits but could be randomly sized examples on randomly chosen extras... But perhaps it was a matter of a badly chosen laundry day at the studios?

It's in any case a cool idea that many of the ships and their skippers at that point of the war would still be newcomers, units rushing back from deep space assignments.

As for officers choosing their own garb, I very much like the idea that the TNG and DS9 styles were all part of the same uniform "generation", and were interchangeable "Class A" and "Class B" versions. However, I'd like to see the ST:FC style as an all-new generation, perhaps the "Class A" variant of that generation but perhaps instead the "Class B".

It would be the very high-ranking people, basically the Admirals, who would get to wear uniforms that aren't exactly uniform. Eccentric old bastards playing fast and loose with regulations would nicely explain the great variety of styles during the early TNG seasons, or the very off-standard looks of the fake Admiral Janeway in "Coda", or the fact that a ST:FC-style flag uniform appeared on DS9's Admiral Ross much later than did the line officer and crew ST:FC uniforms on Sisko and pals.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Turbo]

I've heard some people reason that the particular variant of the uniform is up to the commanding officer - hence why DS9 wore the jumpsuit, active vessels wore the TNG style and the E-D in Generations wore both. It could also be the same reason Admiral Ross is seen wearing a TNG style admiral's uniform for his first few appearances.

Actually, he only wore that uniform for his very first appearance. I believe they made an FC-style uniform for him when they decided to make him a recurring character (Behind the Lines).

In fact, that may have been the first appearance of the FC-style Admiral's uniform. Hayes's uniform in First Contact was the TNG-style one (only seen from the neck up), and all the admirals I can remember between First Contact and Behind the Lines wore the TNG-style uniform.

That said, I don't see a good reason for the background characters in Tears of the Prophets to have been wearing TNG-style uniforms instead of FC-style ones. As Timo pointed out, there should have been a good number of extra uniforms lying around.

 

[jgdst]

I've heard some people reason that the particular variant of the uniform is up to the commanding officer - hence why DS9 wore the jumpsuit, active vessels wore the TNG style and the E-D in Generations wore both. It could also be the same reason Admiral Ross is seen wearing a TNG style admiral's uniform for his first few appearances.

Actually, he only wore that uniform for his very first appearance. I believe they made an FC-style uniform for him when they decided to make him a recurring character (Behind the Lines).

Quite right, I stand corrected