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I'm laughing at the superior intellect.

shapeshifter

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I never understood why people think Khan was such a great villain.

He was an idiot which only ever did one thing right; activate the Genesis device which lead to the death of Spock but even that 'victory' was snatched away from him. :rolleyes:

On a scale of 1 to 5 on the bad-ass scale Khan rates a -3 in my book.
 
Blasphemy!

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Khan was a great villain because of his history with Kirk--he had a believable motivation. Also, Ricardo Montalban brought a gravitas to the villain role that no one except Christopher Plummer has been able to approach since.

Kind of makes me wish we'd gotten Edward James Olmos as Kruge in TSFS.
 
Greg Cox's excellent trilogy The Eugenics Wars will shed more light on his intellect and ruthlessness. I also thought Khan was fairly cheesy until I read the books. Very highly recommend them to anyone! Gary Seven and Roberta Lincoln figure in - great fun and a great read!
 
In Space Seed, he was a really stand-out villain. It was only in Star Trek II that he became so stupid.
It worked for that movie, though. It focused on being emotionally satisfying, rather than smart, so the Ahab-style villain he had turned into suited it perfectly.
 
Khan's biggest mistake was not frying the Enterprise with a photon torpedo in one shot, and instead only crippling her to get his hands on Genesis information which apparently he didn't need to set off the device.
 
Khan's biggest mistake was not frying the Enterprise with a photon torpedo in one shot, and instead only crippling her to get his hands on Genesis information which apparently he didn't need to set off the device.

He didn't have the device until AFTER Kirk led him to it.
 
Hm. My mistake.

Ah, he had enough firepower for effective terrorism already. Does it make a difference if al Qaeda's nuclear device is a hundred kilotons or a megaton?
 
^Remember that Khan is a megalomaniac. His thirst for revenge against Kirk aside, the god-like power that Genesis represented would be irresistable to him.
 
^Remember that Khan is a megalomaniac. His thirst for revenge against Kirk aside, the god-like power that Genesis represented would be irresistable to him.

Agreed. He probably thought as Maltz did, only, "With this weapon, I can destroy old planets and make new ones!" If Khan had gotten away, I'm sure he would've figured out the protomatter flaw, and probably would have sold the weapon to the Klingons or Romulans. -- RR
 
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