If You Could Re-Imagine the Klingon BoP

[WickedZombie45]

That's actually one of my ships that I made for Starfleet Command, which in turn is being retextured by the above-mentioned Furyofaseraph. If anyone has more questions regarding it you can visit the site in my profile or email/PM me.

Apologies for taking the thread further off-topic.

 

[Maurice]

...I do think Paramount overdid the surface detail of the ship...

You mean ILM and Bill George at ILM.

 

[CuttingEdge100]

Hanukkah Jitty,

I actually like the spherical portion of the hammer-head. Still you are obviously entitled to your opinion.


CuttingEdge100

 

[Cary L. Brown]

I'm wondering if you could re-imagine the Klingon Bird-of-Prey's design (which can include the exterior and/or interior design) and details to virtually any degree that you want (or no change at all) how would you go about it?


CuttingEdge100

The only thing I'd ABSOLUTELY lose would be the intermeshing fins on the wings. They cut out a huge volume of the ship's available internal structure, provide no structural advantages, and provide no more cooling capacity than if it was all a solid volume... only the surfaces directly perpendicular to space serve as radiator elements... those which are internal, facing other parts of the ship (including other fins) simply transfer heat to the other adjacent fin... and provide no benefit!

I'd probably replace them with something more "warp-engine-like" but mounted on the top of the wing (giving the Klingons a Voyager-ish nacelle hingey-thingey years before the Federation ever came up with the idea!).

Finally, I'd probably alter the wing-tip cannon to look less like machine-guns and more like "ray-guns" in some fashion.

Oh, and I'd likely put some sort of tertiary landing gear on the front module to work along with the two big ones in the main body... two legs is not so good for stability.

Otherwise, though, I like it pretty much as-is.

(There's one other thing, but it's not a change, exactly... I'd make sure that the ship's scale was clearly and unambigously established and wouldn't allow the same model to be portrayed as 10' long in one shot and 10,000' long in another one.)

 

[CuttingEdge100]

Cary L. Brown,

I see what you mean.

In either case, the degree of wing pivoting would be greatly reduced on the idea I was thinking of. The wings wouldn't fold down, just up for landing and into level position for flight and battle. This would reduce the range of travel and size and complexity of the pivot.


CuttingEdge100

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Cary L. Brown,

I see what you mean.

In either case, the degree of wing pivoting would be greatly reduced on the idea I was thinking of. The wings wouldn't fold down, just up for landing and into level position for flight and battle. This would reduce the range of travel and size and complexity of the pivot.


CuttingEdge100

Agreed, in large part.

We see the BOP with three real wing-positions in the film (ST-III). Wings down, for "attack", wings horizontal, for "cruise," and wings up, for "landing."

My approach would be to reverse the first two. Say, having the wings down puts the wing-mounted nacelles into the best configuration for warp drive (remember, warp nacelles are supposed to be able to "see each other" when in operation!). Wings level gives you the best firing arc (and the smallest target from the side, by the way). And wings up is required for landing. However... the amount of travel could easily be a lot less than what we see. The amount of travel ultimately came down, not to "what makes sense" but rather "what looks cool."

 

[Santaman]

The only thing I would change is to specify ONLY ONE SIZE DAMNIT!!! no more up and down scaling $!$#@!!! its a starship not a yo yo!

 

[Wingsley]

I agree on the size thing.

I was scratching my head after watching TMP4 and "Yesterday's Enterprise" each for a first time. Of course, both were flights of fancy.

The ironic thing is, the BoP model seemed to work better as a K'Vort than as a BoP. Mike Alexander did a great Job with his K'Verlin, which is completely unrelated. I posted Mike's K'Verlin in this thread.

 

[Unicron]

The only thing I would change is to specify ONLY ONE SIZE DAMNIT!!! no more up and down scaling $!$#@!!! its a starship not a yo yo!

That's why I liked the FASA system. It wasn't a simple scaling up, but an entirely new hull that only replicated the external appearance of the original scout design. Pretty much all of the other statistics changed, as they should. And even the largest versions were still relatively small by Trek standards, so they could fill the roles we later saw for them - support and cannon fodder.

 

[Johnnymuffintop]

I'd want to keep the ENT and TMP era ship, but make a new one for next gen, something more like this (with a bigger "head")

 

[CuttingEdge100]

I'm not fond of the K'Vort'Cha design...

 

[MarianLH]

I agree. It looks like it has a pituitary disorder.

I applaud the basic idea, though. It just needs refining.


Marian

 

[blaXXer]

I'd want to keep the ENT and TMP era ship, but make a new one for next gen, something more like this (with a bigger "head")

whoa, ship's got one. fat. booty.

 

[EmperorKalan]

I'd want to keep the ENT and TMP era ship, but make a new one for next gen, something more like this (with a bigger "head")
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whoa, ship's got one. fat. booty.

I'd posted a link to that ship earlier. That's a really bad angle. The final version looks a little slimmer:
http://www.simonsays.com/dominionwars_site/ShipPro_KvortchaPro.htm

http://www.simonsays.com/dominionwars_site/Special_Page_Kvortcha.htm
Schematic:
http://www.simonsays.com/dominionwars_site/Special_Page_Kvortcha_Schem.htm

 

[CuttingEdge100]

I still don't like it...