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If Vulcan… (spoilers)

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If Vulcan is destroyed in an implosion, as many fear, what consequences will that have for the Federation? The timeline? What important events will be the most effected? How would it change what we know as Star Trek? :vulcan:
 
If Vulcan is destroyed in an implosion, as many fear, what consequences will that have for the Federation? The timeline? What important events will be the most effected? How would it change what we know as Star Trek? :vulcan:

We will no longer know what is to come in later movies. Makes it exciting again!
 
Are We so positive that it Stays Destroyed??

I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's a BIG Assumption at this point, isn't it?
 
We don't know yet if Vulcan (if the imploding planet is Vulcan) is detroyed in the 24th century or in the 23rd century. Vulcan may get destroyed at the beginning of the movie in the normal unchanged timeline in the 24th century and then Nero goes back in time.

Of course, Vulcan could be destroyed after Nero attacks it in the 23rd century, causing the timeline to drastically change.
 
Are We so positive that it Stays Destroyed??

I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's a BIG Assumption at this point, isn't it?

Oh you are very right, it is a big assumption... and pure fun speculation, nothing more. As the The Habs Fan said, could be in the 24th century, or maybe it won't stay that way. It could be a different planet, just speculation.
 
Are We so positive that it Stays Destroyed??

I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's a BIG Assumption at this point, isn't it?

Based on my understanding of the MU that timeline will forever be the one in which that planet, whatever it is, will Always be Destroyed. All future events in It will be without that planet in existence.

If we see by films end that planet Isn't destroyed then that will be because we Crossed Back to the Original Timeline.

We have to put the Original Treks emphasis on "restoring the timeline to the way it was" on hold, that doesn't apply here. In QT a timeline cannot ever be changed to begin with, only new reality's created which is what Nero does. He creates his own personal timeline in which we Leave the TL we know and go with him into.
 
It is really simple to imagine how it works, not so much to explain.

Try this. Time line one; Nero Time Travels and creates timeline two.

All the events happen to timeline two, not timeline one, it is safe as we remember it but from now on we see events in timeline two.



Perhaps someday in the future a story will be written which crosses us back to timeline one for a visit. :)
 
It is really simple to imagine how it works, not so much to explain.

Try this. Time line one; Nero Time Travels and creates timeline two.

All the events happen to timeline two, not timeline one, it is safe as we remember it but from now on we see events in timeline two.



Perhaps someday in the future a story will be written which crosses us back to timeline one for a visit. :)

...It's Two..., Two..., TWO Trek's in One!! :)
 
I think you broke my brain!
I don't bother trying to make sense of it. But if Vulcan is destroyed in the mid-23rd century, the 23-31 centurries as we know them will cease to exist. Unless you take a quantum view. It's still not that important.

On a side note...
If Vulcan is destroyed, what will happen to Spock when he undergoes Ponn Farr? Most likely T'Pring is on Vulcan when it is destroyed, so what alternative would Spock have without a holodeck? :vulcan:
 
It is really simple to imagine how it works, not so much to explain.

Try this. Time line one; Nero Time Travels and creates timeline two.

All the events happen to timeline two, not timeline one, it is safe as we remember it but from now on we see events in timeline two.



Perhaps someday in the future a story will be written which crosses us back to timeline one for a visit. :)

...It's Two..., Two..., TWO Trek's in One!! :)

That is a healthy way of seeing it. The Trek has been expanded into new territory.
Nothing has been taken away from, it has been enhanced!

I think you broke my brain!
I don't bother trying to make sense of it. But if Vulcan is destroyed in the mid-23rd century, the 23-31 centurries as we know them will cease to exist. Unless you take a quantum view. It's still not that important.

On a side note...
If Vulcan is destroyed, what will happen to Spock when he undergoes Ponn Farr? Most likely T'Pring is on Vulcan when it is destroyed, so what alternative would Spock have without a holodeck? :vulcan:

See above. We don't know what will happen in this timeline, it's all new.
 
Its a reboot without it being a reboot, basically. Who knows what'll happen in the end.
 
I'd imagine the surviving Vulcans might throw off their emotion shackles and go mental, vowing revenge on every living Romulan. That would make a good Trek 12.
 
I don't know how much of the story at the link below will contain things no one has heard before, but for as old as this "Ain't It Cool News" report is (August 30, 2007), it is uncanny in what it seems to have right, and it does have something to say about Vulcan.

[spoiler="Vulcan spoiler" from article]
Maybe this timeline features dramatic differences. Like... say... if Vulcan were to be blown up. If the Vulcans in the series were suddenly the last of their kind, alone in the universe, it would change who they are and maybe even redefine their strict rejection of emotion in favor of logic. [/spoiler]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33832
 
So in Universe A Romulus explodes and Nero disappears off into Universe B and destroys Vulcan. Either way one bunch of the pointy eared crowd goes bye bye.
 
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