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If Voyager was like "Mad Max in Space," that would be amazing

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I have seen the objection raised that Voyager should not have taken too much risks or included lots of conflict because that would have made it like "Mad Max in Space."

I do not believe this is a good objection, because if Voyager was like "Mad Max in Space," that would be amazing!

The official stated premise of Voyager certainly makes it sound exactly like that is what Voyager would be:

Pulled to the far side of the Galaxy, where the Federation is 75 years away at maximum warp speed, a Starfleet ship must cooperate with Maquis rebels to find a way home.

Indeed, one of VOY's very best episode, The Void, is pretty much "Mad Max in Space," and VOY would have been all the better for it if there were way more episode like that.

So for those who say that making VOY like "Mad Max in Space" is a bad idea, I ask: why is that a bad idea?

And, how would that be worse than the VOY that they did make?
 
Nothing could be worse than the VOY they did make, but a 'Mad Max In Space' type deal sounds terrible (as a potential premise for a Star Trek show).

Star Trek shouldn't be gritty and dark. DS9 got away with it because of all the recurring characters, plots and sub plots.

Voyager had the right idea in that it should pretty much always be anomaly/villain/crisis or the week but it took itself way too seriously and suffered from bad casting, stuffy dialogue, and stories that should've been thrown out before they had even been thought of.

The show needed a sense of humour; have characters actually react to all of the ridiculous things that kept happening. Even Threshold could've been watchable with a character walking around going "this is the most retarded thing that has ever happened on this ship" and basically taking the piss out of the whole thing.
 
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I do not believe this is a good objection, because if Voyager was like "Mad Max in Space," that would be amazing!

Amazingly bad.

Pulled to the far side of the Galaxy, where the Federation is 75 years away at maximum warp speed, a Starfleet ship must cooperate with Maquis rebels to find a way home.

They DID cooperate with the Maquis to find a way home. They just didn't do it in some silly "Let's argue all the time" way.

Indeed, one of VOY's very best episode, The Void, is pretty much "Mad Max in Space," and VOY would have been all the better for it if there were way more episode like that.

The Void was mediocre, and would've sucked as a series plot. In fact, a series long arc would've sucked too.

would that be worse than the VOY that they did make?

Yes.
 
The void was the opposite of Mad Max.in so that max let the cursed earth he lived on after the death of his wife turn him into a gun totting bastard, meanwhile in the void, Janeway brought law and civility into the moral vacuum which was destroying their technology as much as their hope and sense of decency.

However, given Neelix's cooking, maybe tinned dogfood would have been a fair change of pace?

IN my head I've mixed up the opening credits to madmax II and Conan, so as i think that eventually if there were enough movies, that Max would have been the new king of Australia sitting idle upon an uneven throne balanced on the golgotha of his enemies.

Which could have been Janeway.

but most certainly WAS SESKA.

Why be a Ronin when you can be King? Ash from Evil dead proved that in the last movie, "hail to the King baby."

Kull the Conqueror is the worst movie which makes no sense if we must talk about a soldier turning into a king which is what was happening in Andromeda for a while before Space Hercules walked away from power only to be taken aback later by the petty little bitches who did take control of the empire he built that he eventually smashed it all down to rubble again.

Vogayer makes Andromeda look like Deathrace 2000.
 
The people making the show wanted to do "Year of Hell" as an entire season, but the network put the kibosh on that one. No way would they have been allowed to make the entire SERIES that way.
 
It wouldn't have made any sense anyways, it's not like this is Galactica where the people on VOY are all that's left of civilization and they are totally alone in the Universe except for their enemies hunting them.
 
That would be the Equinox Show. :)

can you imagine mirror universe Voyager series where they lost every week and barely made it out alive to their next weeks mission where they lost again losing crew and resources e... Oh that Year of Hell season could have been so beautiful.

How badly would Janeway have to screw the pooch before Tuvok told Chakotay to grow a pair and seize command for the good of the mission?
 
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