If it is a flashback type of story...

[STIntergalactic]

If old Spock is telling a story of the past or whatnot, will they make a point in the movie to let us know exactly what point in time he is telling it from? As of right now, Nemesis marks the latest point in the 24th century that the franchise has taken place. Will this take place after that? Will it be left ambiguous, just have Spock telling his tale without mention of the current date?

I'd like it if they picked up his reunification storyline. Perhaps after the events of Nemesis, reunification becomes possible, and he tells the story of the movie as a speech during the Vulcan/Romulan treaty signing or whatever.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

I'd rather it was left ambiguous... just make it clear that it's well after Nemesis (by showing Spock as being very old) and leave it at that.

 

[Dale]

I don't think they're going to want to tie things to a plotline from TNG series or movies which most of their (hoped for new) audience won't have seen. I expect it will be an ambiguous presentation, timewise, probably revolving around Kirk's death and Spock's eulogizing him.

They're going to want to reintroduce everything slowly as the new movie(s?) roll out, rebuilding the universe in their own style... and I don't think they're going to want to tie in too much to the TNG-and-beyond future.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I don't want to know the exact point in time. Leave it a little mysterious, just that Spock is very old for a Vulcan.

 

[Jayson]

If they incorpoate Kirk in the movie as well my guess is they will say the story is being told from the perspective of the TOS movie era. If not they could be abit more mysterious by having him in Vulcan robes which means it could be any era/ One problem with TNG era though is would they put old age makeup on him? I wonder if that would be confusing to the audience.


Jason

 

[Noname Given]

Up until 1982 (Until ST:TWOK) it wasn't even 100% confirmed on screen exactly what century TOS actually occured in; and TOS had still garnered a huge fan following.

Given that, whether or not they pin down an exact date where we see 'Old Spock'; or pin down an exact date of when this adventure took place should make no difference overall. The actual story and characters as written and presented will make or break this film.

 

[Lumen]

Well, if they want Kirk in the movie, it has to take place before the Enterprise-B hits the nexus.

Unless Kirk doesn't interact with Spock, or they incorporate some especially creative nonlinear storytelling.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

I think Old Spock's story takes place post-Nemesis (this would help quell the "more forward, not backward" protesters). But I DO NOT want this to be a simple "Spock reminiscing" story. That would be a waste of Nimoy's time.

I want Old Spock to be doing something of vital importance in the Post-Nemesis timeframe -- maybe something to do with Romulan/Vulcan Reunification. Then, to help tell the story and to show the audience some vital information about Old Spock's mission, we see the backstory of Young Spock and Young Kirk. This events surrounding this backstory should be VERY IMPORTANT to what Old Spock is doing "in the present" post-Nemesis timeframe. This backstory would NOT be Spock reminiscing about the past, or even thinking about the past for that matter...it is solely presented to the audience to give more information about Old Spock's mission.

Yeah, I know -- this sounds like a 'Lost-style' non-linear story-telling device. So what if it is? Abrams must like it, or he (or his TV writers) wouldn't still be using it. If Nimoy's only reason for being in the film is to tell the story, then that would be a waste. And as I said, moving the story forward in the post-Nemesis time period would make a lot of people happy. (for the record, I personally don't need this film to "move forward", but I wouldn't mind if it did.)

 

[Sharr Khan]

If Nimoy's only reason for being in the film is to tell the story, then that would be a waste

I think that's debatable... though from things Nimoy has said you get the impression he's going to be doing something since he seems to see Spock as "vital" so I doubt we have to worry about Mr Nimoy sitting around "telling a story" wasting his time.

Sharr

 

[Tamek]

Jackson_Roykirk said:
I think Old Spock's story takes place post-Nemesis (this would help quell the "more forward, not backward" protesters). But I DO NOT want this to be a simple "Spock reminiscing" story. That would be a waste of Nimoy's time.

I want Old Spock to be doing something of vital importance in the Post-Nemesis timeframe -- maybe something to do with Romulan/Vulcan Reunification. Then, to help tell the story and to show the audience some vital information about Old Spock's mission, we see the backstory of Young Spock and Young Kirk. This events surrounding this backstory should be VERY IMPORTANT to what Old Spock is doing "in the present" post-Nemesis timeframe. This backstory would NOT be Spock reminiscing about the past, or even thinking about the past for that matter...it is solely presented to the audience to give more information about Old Spock's mission.

Yeah, I know -- this sounds like a 'Lost-style' non-linear story-telling device. So what if it is? Abrams must like it, or he (or his TV writers) wouldn't still be using it. If Nimoy's only reason for being in the film is to tell the story, then that would be a waste. And as I said, moving the story forward in the post-Nemesis time period would make a lot of people happy. (for the record, I personally don't need this film to "move forward", but I wouldn't mind if it did.)

All those hordes of Lost fans out there must like this kind of storytelling, too.

 

[Dale]

What if: Kirk's personal logs have finally been declassified (upon his death, perhaps) and Spock is reading and remembering? Granted, it doesn't seem like enough business to hook Nimoy as an actor, but it just occurred to me...

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Sharr Khan said:

If Nimoy's only reason for being in the film is to tell the story, then that would be a waste

I think that's debatable... though from things Nimoy has said you get the impression he's going to be doing something since he seems to see Spock as "vital" so I doubt we have to worry about Mr Nimoy sitting around "telling a story" wasting his time.

Sharr

I'd like to think that it is more than just a "hey, kids, let me tell you when.." role. Abrams' style isn't to do bookends, but rather juxtapose two timeframes to tell a larger story. I have a feeling, especially since Nimoy has signed on, that the Older Spock has to resolve a problem that began, and thought solved, during the Enterprise's first mission.

 

[SeamusShameless]

Whatever the setup is, it must be big for Nimoy to have agreed to be in it. He's been retired from acting for like ten years, and even before he retired the part had to be just right before he would agree to play Spock. I highly doubt he'll just be sitting in a chair telling a story for 2 hours.

 

[MarianLH]

middyseafort said:
I have a feeling, especially since Nimoy has signed on, that the Older Spock has to resolve a problem that began, and thought solved, during the Enterprise's first mission.

Sounds like Strangers From The Sky, now that you mention it. Which makes me feel better about having Nimoy in the film.


Marian

 

[Falcor5]

Maybe the movie will involve time travel. Maybe Spock somehow gets thrown into the past and the Ent crew does not know that he is the future spock and he has to help them by re-living an untold mission that went bad the first time?

This also could be a way to save Kirk he could give a clue to Kirk about his death in Generations and that could change the future. A cool ending scene would be seeing old Spock going back to his real time and finding out that Kirk did not die (and this could provide a small cameo role for Shatner).

 

[Woulfe]

Jackson Roykirk hit it right on the nose.
If anything it'll be a LOST style flashback, aka non-liner style story telling.
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[SeamusShameless]

Didn't Abrams say that the story was non-linear like two months ago? I'm pretty sure there was an article on TrekWeb.

 

[guardian]

dalehoppert said:
I don't think they're going to want to tie things to a plotline from TNG series or movies which most of their (hoped for new) audience won't have seen. I expect it will be an ambiguous presentation, timewise, probably revolving around Kirk's death and Spock's eulogizing him.

They're going to want to reintroduce everything slowly as the new movie(s?) roll out, rebuilding the universe in their own style... and I don't think they're going to want to tie in too much to the TNG-and-beyond future.

100% agree.
They've got a lot of story to tell without trying to tie up TNG loose ends.
Perhaps Spock on Vulcan in a monestary or at his home with an inderterminate date.
Heck, just showing him at home could imply his mission to reunite Vulcan/Romulas has come true.