If Discovery was set ten year before *anything* TOS, would it make more sense?

[Refuge]

Not much of a point. Capaldi's Doctor takes place in the present, Baker's Doctor takes place in the '70s and '80s. It's not the same. But whenever Doctor Who has shown something from that era it always looked the same; exactly like Star Trek has done so far with TOS. So it's my point that still stands.

K9! That was a cool episode..

 

[Refuge]

Nope. Your original point, before you decided to change it, was a TOS/Who analogy with the argument that and I quote, that "new Who will never, ever try to look like it did back then" which is totally wrong and preposterous:



Remember?



Of course the production values of 60's Doctor Who and 2017 Doctor Who are totally different because 60's Doctor Who is set in the 60's and 2017 Who is set in 2017. But each time they use something from the 60's it looks like it did in the 60's!

They even use exactly the same salt and pepper shakers with plungers as villains for fuck's sake! Why do they do that? Because they respect their past and aren't ashamed of it! Now it's the third time now I've proved you wrong on your old vs new Doctor Who analogy, so move on!

I get what you're saying because although the Daleks have changed over the years (though still recognizable) those blue ones are original. In some ways it's like if there is an episode of Star Trek and they're recreating old earth, I don't know.. say a Western theme, then unless corrupted by aliens that era keeps its historical integrity.

 

[Number One]

I had this thought the other day...what if in Trek's universe time is not linear and they present it to us that way so we can understand it better. So who's to say that it's not like:

TOS->Movies->TNG->DS9->STV->STE->Kelvin(notice how its uniforms are an exact copy of the possible future of the Olympic timeline, only those are red and Kelvin's are blue)->JJB Films->STD?
Disregard any time references, since it's all "future" and as the future is unknown so may be the ability to pinpoint facts to it.(so Augments happen in the/a "future" at some point, the Bell riots too, etc)

Makes more sense to me looking it this way and even STD tech that is more advanced than anything before it(even JJB Films) now looks possible.

(Btw, STO seems to follow that chronology as well).

 

[Ithekro]

People care too much about the visuals. It's window dressing.

Such things can be important if you want people to believe the story is set in the same universe and time frame of an existing franchise.

I find it odd that a historian making reference to Hollywood made historical based films in the 70s points to Mel Brooks' History of the World Part One as the most accurate Roman setting of the era in terms of costuming. Rome isn't that uncommon, so productions can usually get that down enough to the audience knows when they are and where.

The same should be the case for Star Trek as it is now after fifty years an established franchise with known time periods. The setting doesn't have to be slavishly accurate, but the visual aesthetic would clue the audience into when this is happening quite easily. That would, in my mind mean less work for the writers in needing to explain things when you have something already established on the visual end.

Admittedly you have to have a story that can survive in a vacuum, but to those that haven't see it before, they won't need such a thing explained, while those that have, if you have the setting aesthetic in place, will pick up on thing much quicker.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Btw, STO seems to follow that chronology as well

More reason never to pick up STO then!

a historian making reference to Hollywood made historical based films in the 70s points to Mel Brooks' History of the World Part One as the most accurate Roman setting of the era in terms of costuming.

I find that highly disputtable since HOTW used left over Hollywood and theater costumes that included Napoleonic Cuirassier helmets!

 

[publiusr]

If Discovery looked like this:

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Even that looks newer than TOS.

I will say this. Probert's Enterprise-D deserves new effects treatment.

I can see the flowing shapes above CGI pandora type planets.

For TOS? I want a very un-slick look--something like this:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/the-u-e-s-p-a-series-of-books.237106/