That says more about the limitations of the audience's mind than the limitations of the actors' abilities.
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It's too early to say whether that's the case with this film's cast, though. We haven't seen a trailer, much less the final product.
I wouldn't say it's a limitation that you might recognize them from I different role. I remember Scott Bakula from the old Quantum Leap series. Personally I think it's the fact that he was literally a different person every week that makes me remember him the most. A plus to his experience I'm sure.
Since when did that stop a large number of fans from doing just that?
Never, I'm just trying to be the voice of reason here. 
Sounds like a tough job.cardinal biggles said:
Never, I'm just trying to be the voice of reason here.
"Abrams had high praise from everyone here for the shows Alias and Lost UNTIL he asked Paramount to let him do a Star Trek film and now he sucks, too??"
because he will bring TOS into 2008.
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Berman had nothing to do with the quality of DS9.
because he will bring TOS into 2008.
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"Berman had nothing to do with the quality of DS9.
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Holytomato said:
"Abrams had high praise from everyone here for the shows Alias and Lost UNTIL he asked Paramount to let him do a Star Trek film and now he sucks, too??"
because he will bring TOS into 2008.
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Berman had nothing to do with the quality of DS9.
As Exec Producer of all the spinoff shows, he had as much to do with the quality of the shows as he did the lack of qualities people often complain about.
Berman wasn't just exec producer, he was co-creator of DS9. He co-created the show, and he was the executive producer for seven years. As laid back a producer he was, you can't deny he was a major influence on the show, like him or loathe him.
In fact, I think a lot of the problems relating to VOY and ENT - which gave Berman his bad name - were partly due to franchise fatigue on the part of the writing staff, and UPN (they didn't want to start VOY at all but were pressured into making a new show, wanted a break after VOY but were then ordered to put ENT on the air asap).
In fact, I think a lot of the problems relating to VOY and ENT - which gave Berman his bad name - were partly due to franchise fatigue on the part of the writing staff, and UPN (they didn't want to start VOY at all but were pressured into making a new show, wanted a break after VOY but were then ordered to put ENT on the air asap).
I think we can all agree that UPN sucked shit.
Sure did.
I'm afraid to say you're wasting your breath with this argument. There is a certain segment of DS9 fans who simply have decided that Berman had absolutely nothing to do with "their" show, regardless of the facts.
These are some of the same people who screamed "Damn you Braga!" when they didn't like Nemesis - even though Braga had absolutely nothing to do with that movie.
I think that most people who feel that way are also likely to be those who believe that the show started out terribly but got much better later on. Although I don't divorce Berman and Co from the series (that requires you to be in major denial, I think), I do attribute the change in the show from being something I DIDN'T want to watch into something I DID want to watch, to the time that Ira Behr basically took over the running of the show completely, while the "franchise masters" decided to move along to develop Voyager.CaptJimboJones said:
I'm afraid to say you're wasting your breath with this argument. There is a certain segment of DS9 fans who simply have decided that Berman had absolutely nothing to do with "their" show, regardless of the facts.
These are some of the same people who screamed "Damn you Braga!" when they didn't like Nemesis - even though Braga had absolutely nothing to do with that movie.
It's a subtle distinction but it's there. The Ira Behr-run period of the show was better, as a whole, than the period where he wasn't in charge.
Whether that's due to him being a better show-runner, or simply due to the fact that you can't run ANYTHING effectively "by committee," well... that's a whole 'nother topic of conversation.
But it's true... the quality of the show is widely recognized as having changed (and most people would say IMPROVED) when Berman and Co abandoned DS9 to move on to Voyager.
(I say "changed" and "most would say" because there are plenty of folks who hated the shift of DS9 into open warfare... who felt that Star Trek should never be militaristic in any way. I don't agree... but it's a valid perspective, I guess.)
That always made me want toCaptJimboJones said:
These are some of the same people who screamed "Damn you Braga!" when they didn't like Nemesis - even though Braga had absolutely nothing to do with that movie.
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