I love Vulcans

[RoJoHen]

I have to say that between Old Spock, nuSpock, and Sarek, I fell in love with Vulcans all over again. They struggle between emotion and logic always makes for good storytelling and can occasionally be heartbreaking.

Sarek has always been one of my favorite minor characters in all of Trek, and Ben Cross (is that his name?) did a great job in this film as well. Mark Leonard always had very subtle emotional reactions to things that you could only see if you were looking very close. This new Sarek captured that aspect of the character perfectly, I thought. Even with no emotion on his face, you could see his heart breaking when he realized that Amanda had just died.

Nimoy and Quinto's scene at the end was also fantastic and really showed how much Spock's character had evolved over the course of the last 40 years.

 

[Middle Earther]

I agree with you on Nimoy and Quinto, but I did not like Sarek's portrayal at all. It was way too stiff compared to ML's portrayal. I think they should get a more solid, experienced actor for Sarek in the next film. I also have to put in my little dig that I love Vulcans too much to like this movie in general *runs for cover*

 

[indranee]

I might be wrong but IMO you can't get much more "experienced" than Ben Cross.

 

[urbandk]

People have been panning him for being stiff, but I think Ben Cross played the straightest emotionless Vulcan ever.

For most Vulcans, logic = thinly veiled disdain.

I think Ben Cross finally got it right.

 

[sscape]

I think all three portrayals are very good. I am very in favor of the reboot. As Data once said (more or less), "The Vulcan philosophy is limited." Having married a Vulcan, I must agree. It gets very old fairly fast. We are very fortunate to have such talented actors bring these Vulcans to life.

Vulcans seem to be rather hidebound and rigid. I think their species being in peril is just what it needs to allow the culture to grow. They have always been the smug ones with all the answers. Now there are no easy answers. It will be interesting to see what they do to survive.

Get out the baby-grow-bags and start making babies- I guess. (Quoting both Max Headroom and BSG- Am I a geek or what?)

 

[Sky]

I think Ben Cross sucked. He had none of the finesse or the elegance of Lenard. He was maybe the worst of the cast (well, Pegg is competing with him..)

 

[indranee]

People have been panning him for being stiff, but I think Ben Cross played the straightest emotionless Vulcan ever.

For most Vulcans, logic = thinly veiled disdain.

I think Ben Cross finally got it right.

IOW, those Vulcans. they just can't win!!

 

[sscape]

Indranee- good to see you off the "Betrayed with a kiss." thread.

 

[indranee]

yeah, I got bored!

 

[urbandk]

yeah, I got bored!

I haven't looked at it. Any thread that quotes a U2 song for a title...

 

[urbandk]

I want to start a thread: "(SIGH) A sexist porker complains about feminists"

 

[Middle Earther]

yeah, I got bored!

I haven't looked at it. Any thread that quotes a U2 song for a title...

Holy CRAP! I was citing Jesus betrayal by Judas, which U2 probably got the idea from.... I wouldn't know..I've never listened to U2. Sorry for the intrusion, but

 

[urbandk]

yeah, I got bored!

I haven't looked at it. Any thread that quotes a U2 song for a title...

Holy CRAP! I was citing Jesus betrayal by Judas, which U2 probably got the idea from.... I wouldn't know..I've never listened to U2. Sorry for the intrusion, but

haha. of course, U2 quoted it in "Pride," their very special MLK = Jesus song.

anyhow, back on topic. How bout dem Vulcans?

 

[indranee]

those immoral bastardos! what about them?!

 

[Kelso]

Ben Cross was outstanding. He managed to bring a much needed warmth to Sarek that has never been there. I love Lenard... but Cross was the perfect guy to play Sarek in this film.

 

[donners22]

I really hope they do try to follow up on the events of this film in the sequel(s). It'd be interesting to see how they respond to such destruction, and whether their new colony does manage to prosper.