I guess I was wrong.. JJ is turning Trek into Star Wars!!

[number6]

And the proof is here:

http://trekmovie.com/2009/01/05/star-trek-post-production-complete-oscar-winner-ben-burtt-provided-sound-design/


Actually I am pretty stoked. I am a fan of his work and I loved how he slipped a bunch of TOS sound FX into Star Wars!!

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Will the phaser go "pew, pew"?

 

[Phantassm]

How many "TOS" sound effects are actually original? I have seen many 50s films with sounds effects that trek borrowed.

 

[btflash]

will spock roar like chewbacca?

 

[Amaris]

Ben Burtt's doing the sound FX? FanTAStic!
Well, we know the sound effects will be phenomenal!


J.

 

[SalvorHardin]

Burtt does some very good work, so having him onboard is another great plus for Trek XI.

 

[xortex]

They had money left over? Wow.

 

[Shatterhand]

Don't forget to listen for the Wilhelm scream! You KNOW it's gonna show up somewhere if Ben Burtt's at the mixing board.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

^
^^ Ben Burtt has indicated that he may stop using the "Wilhelm Scream" because it has become too much of a cliche rather than the 'tribute to sound history' that was originally intended...i.e., the "in-joke" has been outted.

Let's hope he relents and decides to use it. I'll be listening for it.

 

[DeafPoet]

^

Ben Burtt's good people but I hope he doesn't throw a Wilhelm into Star Trek. It invariably takes me out of the scene when I hear one. It's a reminder (often during a cool scene) that it's all fake.

 

[Captain Robert April]

I do recall hearing some Star Trek sound effects in Star Wars, but I'm not quite up on this "Wilhelm scream".

 

[Gepard]

^Check here and here.

 

[M'Sharak]

^Check here and here.

The video in the second link makes apparent long before you reach the end how over-used an effect it's become. I think retiring it from the nerd checklist (at least for a few years) could only be a good thing.

 

[Jimmy_C]

^Check here and here.

The video in the second link makes apparent long before you reach the end how over-used an effect it's become. I think retiring it from the nerd checklist (at least for a few years) could only be a good thing.

I agree...

Spoiler: Wilhelm

after a Romulan screams it from falling off the drilling platform...

 

[Cary L. Brown]

How many "TOS" sound effects are actually original? I have seen many 50s films with sounds effects that trek borrowed.

Really? Name a couple, then, please.

I ask because, having read vast amounts of stuff on Trek's production over the past 43 years, I've read a number of articles about how various sound effects for the show were created, and created specifically for the show.
(Photon torpedo launching, for instance, was created by tapping a hammer against a guy-wire for a radio transmission tower, for instance.)

So, if there's some information about re-used sound effects you have personal knowledge of which I've missed over the years, please, share it... I'd love to hear about it.

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On-topic... I think Ben Burtt is going to be shown to have done a great job. I think he's probably one of the few people on the film who really, REALLY love the original series and will have done his best to respect the source material. We've already heard that he's replicated (not "reused" but actually re-created) the classic red-alert siren, for instance.

If this film, in any way, "feels" like Star Trek, I think he's going to be central to that.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Don't forget to listen for the Wilhelm scream! You KNOW it's gonna show up somewhere if Ben Burtt's at the mixing board.

I expect to hear it when "Chief Engineer Red-shirt" bounces off the platform...

 

[Herald]

I clearly remember the photon torpedo sound effect in George Pal's "War of the Worlds."

 

[Phantassm]

How many "TOS" sound effects are actually original? I have seen many 50s films with sounds effects that trek borrowed.

Really? Name a couple, then, please.

I ask because, having read vast amounts of stuff on Trek's production over the past 43 years, I've read a number of articles about how various sound effects for the show were created, and created specifically for the show.
(Photon torpedo launching, for instance, was created by tapping a hammer against a guy-wire for a radio transmission tower, for instance.)

So, if there's some information about re-used sound effects you have personal knowledge of which I've missed over the years, please, share it... I'd love to hear about it.

*********

On-topic... I think Ben Burtt is going to be shown to have done a great job. I think he's probably one of the few people on the film who really, REALLY love the original series and will have done his best to respect the source material. We've already heard that he's replicated (not "reused" but actually re-created) the classic red-alert siren, for instance.

If this film, in any way, "feels" like Star Trek, I think he's going to be central to that.

I can't think of any films by name but the bridge sound, the phaser effect and the torpedoes have been used in older film.

 

[Bishbot]

I clearly remember the photon torpedo sound effect in George Pal's "War of the Worlds."

And I definitely remember hearing that hammer tapping guywire story about the blaster sound effect from Star Wars.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

I clearly remember the photon torpedo sound effect in George Pal's "War of the Worlds."

And I definitely remember hearing that hammer tapping guywire story about the blaster sound effect from Star Wars.

Some tricks have been in the "foley guy" bag of tricks for a long time.

For instance, the "pneumatic door" effect on Star Trek was created by combining the sound of a pellet gun and a rubber-soled shoe squeaking on a smooth concrete floor.

Very few "sound effects" in the days prior to computers were really unfamiliar. Sometimes they'd take a known sound and play the tape backwards, or play it slower or faster to change the pitch... sometimes you'd overlay several sounds and vary the proportions (Chewbacca is a combination of quite a few different real animals).

With computers, this has become easier... but folks like Burtt still use sampled sounds as the basis for most of their work.

I wouldn't be surprised if you might have heard SIMILAR sound effects in other places... but not THE SAME sound effects. For instance... did the George Pal film version of "War of the Worlds" use a "hammer striking high-tension wire" effect? Quite possibly, but Star Trek didn't use the same sound (ie, not the same tape) but a different, newly-recorded sound, using a different hammer, a different wire, etc, etc, and processed it in a different way.

"Similar," in other words, is not REMOTELY the same thing as "the same." "The same" applies, for instance, to the "Wilhelm scream" discussed above. That's a single bit of tape, recorded decades ago, which has been reused (not "emulated" or "inadvertently matched" for that matter, but REUSED) many times.