I don't get Picard S2...
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The Expanse novels?
Never read them.The Expanse novels?
They never gave a date. Just the early 21st Century.
It was essentially the McGuffin driving the plot of 2010, which is from the early 80s.
I had the same thought when I rewatched and it seems somewhat like an inconsistency, but here's my take on it so that it makes sense (to me). I haven't read any other post in this thread yet and I'm sure others have different thoughts. Picard's penance was having to go through the ordeal. Q was angry and scared that he was dying. He was also angry at Picard for having lived alone and not letting go of his trauma and scared that he hit him (one wonders why Q didn't tell Picard that he had a son out there and to go find them but ... ::shrugs::: ).
Q knew the entire ordeal, from changing the timeline, to working with Soong and telling him to stop Picard, to getting Picard run over, would result in Picard facing his past, forgiving himself, and letting go. NotLaris even theorized at one point I believe that Q wanted Picard in a coma. That was the overall purpose of everything that happened this season. I mean I don't really like that the whole season came down to that. Couldn't Q just snap his fingers and let Picard forgive himself or let him face the thoughts in his mind?? Why did it take all of season 2's events just for that?
I do wonder if the writers originally had one idea for Q being angry and hitting Picard and having a penance and then changed it at the end of the season.
I did notice before season 2 even aired, people associated with the show were hyping up season 3 on social media. I mean yea they were probably filming scenes with the whole TNG gang and were excited...but it seemed odd to me they werent saying anything about season 2 before it aired and were saying things like they couldnt wait for us to see season 3. Then that TNG cast teaser came out while season 2 was still airing new episodes. I think they knew the season had major problems.
Or time changed. The Guinan we've seen all along never knew Rios, but after Picard went back to his time the Guinan now had.
The Time's Arrow thing is easy and hard to explain. When Picard first met her she didn't have those memories because the events didn't happen as they were in the timeline that would lead to the confederation. As soon as Renee's shuttle left and they were back in the Federation timeline, I'm assuming young Guinan would suddenly have those memories again. So maybe Whoopi Guinan has memories of a time not remembering those events and then suddenly remembering them again?? Ugh.
Only problem with the "time changed" theory is that Picard said those bullet holes (that he caused in the past) were always there from his POV...unless he suddenly remembered them always being there after he caused them. LOL "I hate temporal mechanics"
Q apparently tried to stop Renee from going to Europa so she doesn't find a sentient microbe on Io (completely different place) so that microbug doesn't solve climate change, in order for Picard to figure out that the key needs to stay behind the brick, because the immortal Q is dying, and Picard saves the timeline with a girl who wants to bite eyelids and kick faces, and another girl who has to scream so much the room shakes, because that is how you order a Q delivery. Makes perfect sense, right?
I've seen the season twice and your explanation of the actual season's events completely lost me LOL
It was said that the reason Guinan didn’t recognize Picard was because with the timeline change, the events of Time’s Arrow never occurred, thus they never met in the 19th century.
However, Yesterday’s Enterprise clearly showed that Guinan was able to sense something with the timeline wasn’t right. As Data speculated, “Perhaps her species has a perception that goes beyond linear time.”
With that in mind, I hoped Guinan would have at least had some vague sense of who Picard was. She definitely knew something was “off.”
However, Yesterday’s Enterprise clearly showed that Guinan was able to sense something with the timeline wasn’t right. As Data speculated, “Perhaps her species has a perception that goes beyond linear time.”
With that in mind, I hoped Guinan would have at least had some vague sense of who Picard was. She definitely knew something was “off.”
Meh. Guinan's powers were nebulous at best. If she knew who Picard was it doesn't automatically mean she would share that, especially since Q was involved and she doesn't trust Q (and vice versa).
I always theorized that Guinan was able to sense the change in timelines was because of her experience with the Nexus which happened a couple of centuries after Picard season 2
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