I CAN'T STAND HER!

[Wil has a posse]

The very concept of a ship's counselor on the bridge is laughable.

First and foremost, what does she do while they're just flying around, waiting to arrive at the mission's destination. Small talk with the CO and XO?

If there was a counselor, she should've been in the medical department and in her office most of the time.

And to add insult to injury, they put their pointless counselor in a ridiculous leotard which just screams "I am a professional, please take me seriously."

Utter nonsense.

 

[davejames]

^ Yeah, something tells me if they made the counselor a MAN, you wouldn't see him sitting next to Picard on the bridge all the time.

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

Wil has a posse said:
And to add insult to injury, they put their pointless counselor in a ridiculous leotard which just screams "I am a professional, please take me seriously."

I'd take her...seriously. I'd take her any way she'd have me, actually.

 

[happycat]

I 'd have to agree, Deanna Troi was irritating. For me, it was the big eyes thing. and the awful uniformss. True, they were clingy, as all the unforms for female Star Fleet officers, but, she had some really bad uniforms. For an officer, I think you should have had some kind of flash to go with the rank.

 

[kakashi76767]

she was actually the very best character. reach out, touch faith!! Your own... personal.... impath....
REACH OUT TOUCH THOUGHTS!!

 

[TrueQ]

Never had anthing with her, just a TNG character. But still not my favorite one...

 

[Who_Trek]

I never had any great like / dislike of Troi: but I have to tell you, I saw her at a con, and she rocked! She was sexy, funny, cute, and cool. I've seen a lot of Trek stars at cons, but she is probably my favorite.

 

[Cmndr J Crichton]

She is still the hottest character in the Trek universe. Hoshi Sato coming in at a close second. I didn't like her character either in the first two seasons, but it was the episode The Survivors in season 3 that won me over. Her acting was perfect, and you really felt for her when she was hurt by that alien. As a person, Marina Sirtis is the most personable, and nicest of all the Trek actors I've met. I'd even wait in line a second time to get her autograph if I had the chance.

 

[Warped9]

Who_Trek said:
I never had any great like / dislike of Troi: but I have to tell you, I saw her at a con, and she rocked! She was sexy, funny, cute, and cool. I've seen a lot of Trek stars at cons, but she is probably my favorite.

When she did TorontoTrek some years ago she developed the impression of being a royal bitch.

Cmndr J Crichton said:
She is still the hottest character in the Trek universe.

I'm goona h url.

 

[blueshirt]

I think Troi suffered greatly the first couple seasons from the writers focusing on what she could "sense" rather than what her abilities would teach her.
A telepathic or empathic person should accumulate so much knowledge about human(oid) nature that she'd soon be wise beyond her years.

The writers should have let Troi give the kind of advice Guinan was giving. And rather than serving as a Spock-like character, Troi should have been the "McCoy substitute," advising Picard on the emotional side of the given episode's issue.

And yes, I think Marina Sirtis would have carried that version of Troi well.

 

[GalaxyX]

A lot of points have been mentioned already, and to me she is the second most hated character in TNG (Pulaski being the first), but here are the key points I can't stand:

1. The smug arrogant attitude, like that episode where she tells Data "You may now call me commander, data". Like seriously, she thought she was better than everyone else because she could "share" in other people's feelings. Bleck.

2. The frizzy hair. Stupid stupid stupid. Movie Troi was 10 times better.

3. The Catsuit. She's supposed to be a professional therapist and she's dressing like a crack whore? Sorry, it takes away ALL credibility from the character, the same it does for T'Pol. (the 7 or 9 character survived because Jeri Ryan turned out to be an excellent actress and surpassed the obstacle of the catsuit), not to mention SHE doesn't fill in that suit that well in the early TNG years with her pear shaped frame.

 

[cueballb]

I never could stomach her. Not because i don't like how she is portrayed, but just because of what she does.

she always gives things away, much to early on in the episode. Like when the Enterprise is contacted by another ship, she always comes out with clever remarks as "he is hiding something" or "he is lying". Goddamnit Troy! I want to find out myself if he is lying! Why do you always need to take the mystery out of the story? We all know when an alien comes up on the viewscreen he could very well be hiding something, but we don't need confirmation! She always screws up episodes like that.

 

[Forbin]

Let's face it, EVERY time an alien came up on the viewscreen he was hiding something. The writers had these major ruts they were in.

 

[SmoothieX]

I couldn't stand her the first couple seasons. When the show first ran, my Mom used to call her Bambi and wished she was the one that got knocked off in Skin of Evil.

She got better in later years when they figured out what to do with her.

And while I see how a counselor would be useful on a long deep space mission, I agree that she doesn't have much place on the bridge unless there's a diplomatic situation going on.

 

[kakashi76767]

i had a post going earlier that mentioned:
1. why not have 2 or more impaths, or at very least a full impath, on the flagship?
2. Deanna AND Lwaxana were good in some episodes, the best being "Dark Page." Sorry but its a good episode.

I agree with everyone about the uniform. she's wearing pajamas folks. the first one, that hideous olive green thing, was the worst one. but then again when your in space, and its perpetual nighttime outside, maybe you always should be in pj's.

-----------

Piccard: "Didnt anyone here build model ships when they were boys?"
Worf: "I did not play with toys."
Data: "I was never a boy."

 

[Trekwatcher]

As others have said, Troi became a much better character as the series evolved. You gotta give the writers and Sirtis credit, they worked to make Troi more interesting and they did so, especially in the last few seasons. Remember, she was a redo of Ilia from the aborted Star Trek Phase II, so they needed time to make her into her own character.

 

[Outpost4]

The biggest problem with Troi was something Sirtis recognized:

Deanna Troi was not funny.

She was such a serious stick-in-the-mud she brought everyone down. Spock was funny. Worf was funny. Even Malcolm Reed in his own way was funny. You could be a serious character in Trek and still be funny. Troi wasn't. Never could be. Who wants an unfunny ship's counselor?

Not me, either.

 

[Amelie]

Outpost4 said:
The biggest problem with Troi was something Sirtis recognized:

Deanna Troi was not funny.

She was such a serious stick-in-the-mud she brought everyone down. Spock was funny. Worf was funny. Even Malcolm Reed in his own way was funny. You could be a serious character in Trek and still be funny. Troi wasn't. Never could be. Who wants an unfunny ship's counselor?

Not me, either.

Yup

Not funny and no sense of humour!

 

[Warped9]

Forbin said:
Let's face it, EVERY time an alien came up on the viewscreen he was hiding something. The writers had these major ruts they were in.

True. And big surprise at that. Who the hell wouldn't be hiding something when you're encountering something or someone totally alien to you and you don't know anything about them. They might as well have had Troi say something truly DUH like, "Captain, they don't look like us."

 

[Kevin]

scottydog said:
Luwaxana Troi is far more difficult to tolerate than Deanna. At least Sirtis is eye candy!

Except when she was trying to pass along a life lesson I like luwaxana. She was beyond annoying and everyone hated her. It doesn't get better than that. Also, it pissed me off that troi never got killed even though she was just a counselor. Yet she could handle herself on the battlefield?!