"I can't decide": The Doctor and the Master

[The Other]

omfg is this argument on which country is more violent STILL happening....honestly fine if you want an answer then you have to think 4th dimensionally. Brits have been around alot longer than the US and probably have a much longer and richer history of violence considering the US is still in its infancy (well maybe almost teen years). The US is probably still developing just how violent they can get meaning that they might have a long rich future of new levels of violence that they can bring themselves and maybe the rest of the world to. On the other hand WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE SIT HERE QUANTIFYING DEATH AND VIOLENCE!! But seriously...WHO CARES!


Oh, loved that Master Vid...and as for the redpill statement...it's a Matrix reference.

 

[Whofan]

Well this went in a direction I didn't intend.....


Anyway, wasn't there originally a plan to have the Master be the Doctor's dark side or something, and that was the original plan to end Pertwee had Delgado not died?


Apparentally from what I've read they would've had a Sherlock Holmes/Moriarty thing with the two locked in mortal combat or something that would lead to the regeneration.


Funny, 'cause the Valeyard (From Trial of a Time Lord) was also considered the Doctor's dark side, and one of the proposed endings also had them in mortal combat in the Matrix or time vortex.

 

[Theodore Jay Miller]

I heard the word "shit" 20 times in an episode of Kitchen Nightmares on BBC America.

If they were using the word 'shit' literally, that would definitely be a kitchen nightmare.

 

[Mr Awe]

Last time I researched it, the Per Capita Murder rate in the US versus the UK was pretty similar, so, the UK has just as many murders, but, they're being done with something other than a gun. Truth be told, if I gotta be murdered, I think I'd actually prefer being shot to death than knifed to death or bludgeoned to death

My quick check using wikipedia, gives the UK murder rate at 1.28 and the US at 5.0 which means the US has a muder rate approx 400% higher than the US. Last I checked that isn't what would be described as similiar.

Of course some parts of the US will have a similiar if not lower rate than the UK.

Though some would argue that the easier access to firearms in the US is part of the reason for a higher murder rate.

things must've changed in the last few years then. I checked a few years back and it was only a difference of a couple points. 1.28 seems awfully low from, I believe they were both in the 5.0 rate prior

ETA: Ah, OK, perhaps I was wrong to use the term Per Capita? UK Population is considerably lower than the US population, you are probably going by how many out of 100,000 for both. That's not a fair comparison, you have to divide that 100,000 down (Or multiply the 1.28 by the Population differential in order to get the proper comparison of percent likelihood to be murdered)

Wow, you really don't know math, do you?! You give out of 100,000 *BECAUSE* of the population difference. It allows you to compare between populations of different sizes without further adjustment.

Mr Awe

 

[MacLeod]

^You beat me to it, I was just about to point out the very same fact.

For a situation in which you would multiple this would be one.

in the UK, DW gets an average of 8m viewers per episode, this would be equivelant to almost 36m in the US as the US has approx 4.5 times the population of the UK.

Just out of interest does any Drama show in the US pull in those kind of viewing figures?

 

[Skellington]

^ According to Languatron, if I recall, OldBSG used to pull in 29 million viewers. I think that his claims were somewhat suspect, thiough.

 

[MacLeod]

And did the original and best V (mini-series) pull in around 40m, Though I was thinking more about today rather than the 70's/80's

 

[Skellington]

The 20 most watched shows of 2010 according to thedailybeast.com. American Idol got just under 23 million viewers (on average, I assume) for its Tuesday performance show.