I can see a Sovereign Class Starship....

[Plumster]

I've nicked this off of someone else but it was worth raising.

Take a look at the trailer - are my eyes playing tricks....?

1:29-1:31 when they drop out of warp, just before Pike says fire all weapons, it's a Sovereign class starship on screen..........freeze at 1.30.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdSfIZRURPg&feature=related

 

[sbk1234]

Sorry. Couldn't see it.

 

[Plumster]

Sorry. Couldn't see it.

You've got to play with it a bit. (The video I mean)

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

I can see a Sovereign Class Starship....

I'm looking through the Magic Mirror...

Romper, bomper, stomper boo. Tell me, tell me, tell me, do. Magic mirror, tell me today. Have all my friends had fun at play?

I see Amy and Billy and Michael and Freddy. I see Linda and Jennifer and Luke and Margaret...

 

[M'Sharak]

1:29-1:31 when they drop out of warp, just before Pike says fire all weapons, it's a Sovereign class starship on screen..........freeze at 1.30.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdSfIZRURPg&feature=related

Where on the screen are you seeing it?

 

[Plumster]

Just above the daft lamp on the console in front of the Captain. The left side of the Helm/Nav console.

It's there.

I'm telling you.



Can someone put up the screenshot of the viewscreen as it clears when they come out of warp - one or two consecutive frames should do it.

 

[DRMidnite]

'Fraid not...at least not that I can see.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

There is something there that looks a bit like a Sovereign's engine nacelle.

Only, it's not attached to anything.

 

[Plumster]

There is something there that looks a bit like a Sovereign's engine nacelle.

Only, it's not attached to anything.

There's more - just keep hitting pause and it reveals itself.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

There is something there that looks a bit like a Sovereign's engine nacelle.

Only, it's not attached to anything.

There's more - just keep hitting pause and it reveals itself.

It doesn't, though. It's just an optical illusion.

There are two objects. One looks like a nacelle. One looks like the leading edge of a Sovereign's saucer. However, if you go through frame by frame, you see that they're not attached to each other, and they are, in fact, moving in different directions. It's the thing in the middle that's obscuring that they're not connected. In several frames, you get a clean look at the "nacelle," and it's clearly an object on its own.

You asked up top if your eyes were playing tricks. The answer is... Yes, they are. Sorry.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Apologies in advance for the double post.

I've gone through the trailer, and pulled these two images:

The image on the left is immediately as the Enterprise drops from warp. If you look at the left edge, you see something that looks vaguely like a Sovereign-class vessel. There's a nacelle like structure on a downward diagonal, an object of some provenance in between, and then emerging from the other side looks like the leading edge of the saucer.

But if you go forward a few frames, the nacelle is shown to be its own object, and the leading edge is shown to be some sort of pod or something.

It's an optical illusion, due to the wreckage in between the nacelle and the saucer; your mind knows the shape, so it's filling in the blanks mentally, though as the perspective shifts it's revealed not to be a single object at all.

 

[DaveyNY]

I can see a Sovereign Class Starship....

I'm looking through the Magic Mirror...

Romper, bomper, stomper boo. Tell me, tell me, tell me, do. Magic mirror, tell me today. Have all my friends had fun at play?

I see Amy and Billy and Michael and Freddy. I see Linda and Jennifer and Luke and Margaret...

I stopped watchin' THAT show cause She NEVER saw ME!!!
(stupid blind bitch!!) grumble.. grumble.. grumble..


>snicker<


oh... and I don't see it either.

 

[M'Sharak]

Can someone put up the screenshot of the viewscreen as it clears when they come out of warp - one or two consecutive frames should do it.

Here's another screencap, posted as an attachment. Even if there were a plausible argument for a Sovereign-class ship being present at this point, I can't say I see one here.

 

[Mysterion]

Back, and to the left....back, and to the left...

 

[trekkerguy]

You do realize this is the wreckage of the Kelvin right?

 

[cultcross]

You do realize this is the wreckage of the Kelvin right?

That would be fairly clever as this frame is set on the Enterprise, which we see being built when Kirk's in his ~20s.

 

[M'Sharak]

You do realize this is the wreckage of the Kelvin right?

Since the view is from the bridge of the Enterprise (with Kirk aboard) and since the destruction of the Kelvin was supposed to have taken place at just about the time Kirk was being born, I suspect that the wreckage is of something other than the Kelvin (and quite a few something others, at that.)

 

[cooleddie74]

Or maybe its wreckage from another Federation starship that---from that distance and angle---just coincidentally looks like the shape of a Picard-era vessel?

 

[trekkerguy]

You do realize this is the wreckage of the Kelvin right?

Since the view is from the bridge of the Enterprise (with Kirk aboard) and since the destruction of the Kelvin was supposed to have taken place at just about the time Kirk was being born, I suspect that the wreckage is of something other than the Kelvin (and quite a few something others, at that.)

True, can someone show me something that directly says it's destroyed while he's a kid however? I havn't seen that yet.

And if so I would have to agree with cooleddie74.

 

[M'Sharak]

You do realize this is the wreckage of the Kelvin right?

Since the view is from the bridge of the Enterprise (with Kirk aboard) and since the destruction of the Kelvin was supposed to have taken place at just about the time Kirk was being born, I suspect that the wreckage is of something other than the Kelvin (and quite a few something others, at that.)

True, can someone show me something that directly says it's destroyed while he's a kid however? I havn't seen that yet.

And if so I would have to agree with cooleddie74.

I believe that it was stated in the Entertainment Weekly article back in October, where we saw the first images on the Kelvin, -- I think they used words to the effect that it was "before our Captain Kirk was born" -- and also that Jim Kirk's father George Samuel, Senior was the Kelvin's executive officer. It's been repeated a few times since then.

Edit:

TrekMovie article

EW article (see the image caption at the top of the first page)