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I am buying a TV

JoeZhang

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Due to various whining family members, I have relented on my stance on the googlebox and decided to buy a TV.

Since I haven't owned one in a number of years, I thought you knowledgeable people could help me out. Let me see - if I understand what I'm reading on forums, I should get something that is

*1080p

* high contrast rate (for the blacks)

Is that right? What else do I need to look out for?

This is a good telly right?

http://www.recommendedbuys.co.uk/electronics/lcd-televisions/samsung-le46a956.htm
 
Due to various whining family members, I have relented on my stance on the googlebox and decided to buy a TV.

Since I haven't owned one in a number of years, I thought you knowledgeable people could help me out. Let me see - if I understand what I'm reading on forums, I should get something that is

*1080p

* high contrast rate (for the blacks)

Is that right? What else do I need to look out for?

This is a good telly right?

http://www.recommendedbuys.co.uk/electronics/lcd-televisions/samsung-le46a956.htm

Joe,

How much are you willing to spend and what size tv are you looking for? The link didn't show the tv, btw.

I will say that for a 1080p, I'd go with a plasma over lcd. You will get differing opinions but do your own research on it. Consumer reports and CNET can tell you the plusses and minuses of each. To me, there's no comparison.

If, in the plasma range, I were buying a tv now, I'd go with either the Samsung or the Panasonic. Both have fabulous pictures and are reasonably priced. Pioneer is the top of the line, but completely overpriced. You can also save a ton by purchasing it online, which I did.

Good luck.


ETA... the link is working now. I'll post a few tv's that you might want to consider in a few minutes. Also, if you can swing a 50" it's worth it and you'll be happy you did later on.



ETA*** Here is the top rated 50" from Consumer Reports - Samsung PN50A550 ($1,464.99-Amazon) Here's Panasonic's in the same 50" category. TH-50PZ800U ($1,870.00-Amazon).

I think it's tha Samsung all the way, although you need to check UK prices.
 
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Samsung is certainly a good recommendation, and it's all price-dependent, but I'd disagree with the Plasma recommendation vs LCD. Plasma was the answer early on, but LCD has definitely overtaken Plasma by now, and there are plenty of benefits of LCD over a Plasma. Lighter, less energy used, doesn't get as hot, more pc-ready if you want to plug in a home-theater computer.

As far as price, picture, and the rest, not much difference between the two. Slightly better contrast from Plasma, but when you can find LCD at 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio, you're not talking a difference you can see with your eyes. Plasma is still prone to burn-in if you aren't careful, although newer sets have taken steps to try and reduce the risk. Can't avoid it completely, though, because due to the nature of the plasma technology, you're heating up the gases... Don't believe that plasma has the same longevity as LCD, either, although decent sets of either should still last 10+ years.

As for the rest, depends on your situation. Size and shape of the room, viewing distance, budget, and the video sources you will be watching from. Without that data, can't really get more specific, other than to say that LCD is likely your best bet, get as big as you can afford, and 1080p is what you should get if you can afford it, as that's the current standard. And Samsung is your best bang for your buck in the LCD market.

Around here, can get 46" LCD Samsung models for around $1100, give or take. Can adjust higher or lower depending on what you need it to do...
 
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Upon further review, it would appear that the plasma TLS quoted does have a pc (VGA) input. I can't speak to whether it's harder or easier (or the same) as far as having your pc accept that as a monitor device...

The rest stands :p
 
I would echo TLS on this. If you have enough to spend, a 50 inch Panny plasma is the way to go... unless you can afford Pioneer Kuro :).
 
I would echo TLS on this. If you have enough to spend, a 50 inch Panny plasma is the way to go... unless you can afford Pioneer Kuro :).

And although LCD has made some advances in viewing angles, it still can't touch plasma.

My friend has a 60" lcd he's very proud of. Whenever I go to his house I think that there's no way I'd buy one of those. No way.
 
OK - 50" it is. Now I'm going to assume that I want a bluray player as well - are they all pretty much the same? or is there a particular brand I want to get?
 
Here's Panasonic's in the same 50" category. TH-50PZ800U ($1,870.00-Amazon).

I would echo TLS on this. If you have enough to spend, a 50 inch Panny plasma is the way to go... unless you can afford Pioneer Kuro :).

I recently bought this Panasonic set. Its picture is glorious. My best price was from PC Connection but that can vary from day to day.

And although LCD has made some advances in viewing angles, it still can't touch plasma.
LCD has improved a lot more than "some advances in viewing angles" in the past few years. On the best LCD sets, the blacks are much deeper and the sets are also much brighter than they were just two years ago. Still, TLS is right. Plasmas continue to be king. They aren't as servicable (if it dies, you might well throw it away, where with an LCD you'll most likely just change out the light bulb) and use a lot of electricity, but a great TV is all about picture quality and plasmas still have the best picture.
 
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Viewing angle on a LCD is 178 degrees. Unless you are trying to watch tv from the back side, what's the viewing angle discussion about?
 
Here's Panasonic's in the same 50" category. TH-50PZ800U ($1,870.00-Amazon).

I would echo TLS on this. If you have enough to spend, a 50 inch Panny plasma is the way to go... unless you can afford Pioneer Kuro :).

I recently bought this Panasonic set. Its picture is glorious. My best price was from PC Connection but that can vary from day to day.

And although LCD has made some advances in viewing angles, it still can't touch plasma.
LCD has improved a lot more than "some advances in viewing angles" in the past few years. On the best LCD sets, the blacks are much deeper and the sets are also much brighter than they were just two years ago. Still, TLS is right. Plasmas continue to be king. They aren't as servicable (if it dies, you might well throw it away, where with an LCD you'll most likely just change out the light bulb) and use a lot of electricity, but a great TV is all about picture quality and plasmas still have the best picture.

The only thing I disagree with you on is the "if it dies" part. you can certainly buy the bulbs for a plasma. They range in price but they're at least $200+.

As far as the angle issue, here is something to take a look at. And it is true. LCD's have a "sweet spot" for viewing. Left and right, high and low.

Up to 178°. Plasma images do not suffer from the same degradation at higher viewing angles that LCD TVs do because of the nature of the technology.Up to 175°. LCD TVs were originally designed for a one user experience, as a computer monitor. As the applications for the technology grew for larger to larger displays and audiences , an issue with viewing angles emerged. Although the LCD TV can be viewed from up to 176 degrees, there is a "sweet spot" which will produce brighter, higher contrast images.

http://www.projectorpeople.com/resources/lcd-plasma-projector.asp

For me, it's all about the picture and plasmas have a clearly better picture with deeper blacks and the same half-life for the most part.

ETA*** "Brightness and contrast levels can vary on an LCD TV depending on where you stand in relation to the center point of the screen" For me, I want the same picture wherever I am in the room.
 
The only thing I disagree with you on is the "if it dies" part. you can certainly buy the bulbs for a plasma. They range in price but they're at least $200+.
TLS, you are mistaken. A plasma doesn't use a bulb at all. The panel is made up of hundreds of thousands of ultra-tiny pockets of ionized gas. An electrical current flows through them and they glow red, green or blue. The basic technology is not dissimilar to an fluorescent or neon tube, just a hell of a lot more sophisticated, complicated, precise, compact and expensive. You can't repair the panel. If it dies, it dies. You have to replace the whole thing, which isn't worth it. You chuck it instead.

A LCD TV works by shining a light through red, green and blue LCD pixels on the display panel. It is essentially a solid state device, with only the light bulb likely to wear out. It's usually field replaceable and is certainly more serviceable.

The following articles might help.

How a plasma TV works

How a LCD TV works

Plasma does have an advantage as a mature technology. We think of it as ultra-modern, but it has actually been around, essentially unchanged (although certainly improved and refined), for almost twenty years. Economies of quality, production and reliability are definitely in play. In some respects, it is already yesterday's technology. Companies like Fujitsu and Pioneer no longer make their own displays. Fujitsu was a huge player in the game and couldn't compete with the new, lower price manufacturers. They got out. Pioneer is now using a Matsushita (Panasonic) made panel. But for us electronic junkies, a mature technology has advantages. It's proven and will probably work well for years and years. Panasonic now says you can get over 100,000 hours (that's 3 hours a day for 90 years) on one of their panels before the image significantly dims. That was as little as 10,000 hours a dozen years ago, especially on Fujitsu panels.

LCD is just getting rolling. They will continue to improve dramatically over the next half a dozen years. Don't be surprised if they totally take over the market in that time.

New technologies like OLED (Organic Light Emitting Diodes) might beat everyone, though. It's been the "next great thing" for half a dozen years and is finally now just hitting the market. Sony has some small, very expensive OLED TVs for sale. OLED, like all new technologies, will get cheaper and better. It promises to be the TV you can roll up like a window shade. The panel itself is currently millimeters thick, and could well be even thinner in the future.
 
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Personally I would wait until Samsung (and soon after, other manufactures) releases more of their LED-backlit LCD TV's. I've heard the brightness and contrast ratios are spectacular. For example, this Sammy, while still rather pricey for the size, has a 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio and 120Hz refresh rate, making it perfect for Blu-Ray.
 
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