How would the Borg Queen episode have turned out?

[Saul]

According to Judith and Garfield Reeves Stevens they pitched this idea for Enterprises's 5th season? Alice Krige would play a starfleet character who would find the Borg and be turned into the Queen.

There's not much other info on the episode but how does everyone here imagine it? What would the story be and how would it fit in with the Borg of the 24th Century? Why would they make her Queen?

Perhaps she encounters lost Borg like from Regeneration, they are too far from the Delta Quadrant and need someone with a strong mind to bring order to Chaos, when they find her they realize she is their future Queen and assimalte her. Thus creating a paradox.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

Borg Queen

What would the story be and how would it fit in with the Borg of the 24th Century? Why would they make her Queen?

A more important question to ask is why the TNG episodes dealt with the Borg Collective and not the Borg Queen until First Contact where in 2063 we meet the Borg Queen? Unless she never survived after Picard 'killed' her.

Even memory alpha mentions:

No truly single individual existed within the Borg Collective (with the possible sole exception of the Borg Queen),

The Borg Queen also spoke for the Collective, acting not as a mere liaison but as a physical manifestation of the hive mind. The exact nature of her role is unclear.

It would seem a nice story element to see how the Borg Queen was assimilated but reminds me more of the VOY episodes where 7of9 has flashbacks to her parents being assimilated...
Since ENT is set in the 22nd century the episode would have to be a time travel episode or else a major flashback to before 2063.
Or in Star Trek: First Contact was the Borg Queen on the Borg sphere-shaped vessel heading towards Earth already in the 24th century when it opens a temporal vortex for time travel.

A more interesting aspect is that this character has been played by 2 actors.
Alice Krige in 1996 "ST:First Contact" & 2001 in VOY "Endgame"
The character was played by Susanna Thompson in the Voyager episodes "Dark Frontier", "Unimatrix Zero", and "Unimatrix Zero, Part II" they say due to Alice Krige's schedule in 1999 for "Dark Frontier".
I would really like to see Alice Krige perform the Queen again as I think her performance was better.


To tell the truth in reality I think it will be a long time in canon before we see The Borg as a villain again.

 

[ChristopherPike]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I vaguely recall the Borg Queen speaking to Seven on Voyager. In the conversation she gives her species number... I took that to mean she wasn't a human being before her assimilation.

That doesn't necessarily write that proposed episode off.

I don't know. I think it was miracle Regeneration worked as well as it did. Tied into First Contact helped, not having a Queen to steal their thunder and that sinister Brian Tyler soundtrack really raised it above average. Another Borg episode would be Enterprise pushing its luck and likely ending up with Acquistion, Part II on its hands, needlessly referencing a fixture from 24th Century... while everybody comes away unsure exactly who they were dealing with.

If it was the only controversial episode that year and was tucked away mid-season... Anywhere else and the audience will have switched off before you've even got to tell stories that only ENT can do.

 

[KottenFutz]

Maybe she’s the very first borg. Perhaps she was a Starfleet officer experimenting with wormhole phenomenon on board the NX, when her experiment goes awry and gets them all sucked into the Delta quadrant They encounter a machine planet looking for non artificial life as their indigenous species died out or was destroyed, leaving only their sentient machine mind behind (like a Braniac to Krypton situation). In the process to repopulate their planet with life they take Krige’s character as their new leader, she might even volunteer, melding her with them. Then things get menacing over the next few centuries. Perhaps Krige’s character already brings with her a cold logic, control issues, and dominate temperament that influences the new melded life form, now she sees a chance to make the universe to her own perfect image of what it should be… and then, LOOK OUT GRANNY!!!. We all know someone like that, right?

 

[jefferiestubes8]

I think it was miracle Regeneration worked as well as it did.

Well considering the first half of Regeneration's story was from the 1938 novella "Who Goes There?" which was made into The Thing from Another World in 1951, and remade again in 1982 by John Carpenter as The Thing of course that part works because director David Livingston had two other films to use as a guide...
A small note though that Regeneration went along with the setting as the Arctic circle just like The Thing from Another World.
Both Who Goes There? and The Thing (1982) have the story set in Antarctica.

Heck you could have removed the entire on-screen part of finding the Borg drone and just had it as a paragraph of expositon from Admiral Forrest before he orders Enterprise to intercept the transport vessel if you really wanted to see more of the drones on board the NX-01...

While no mention of any queen at all in Regeneration it shows how destructive The Borg can be. Maybe just maybe the NX-01 database lost any of Archers notes on this episode down the road due to some other battle.

At least us fans of the villain The Borg got to see them in a ENT episode.

Quick question...have the Borg appeared in any Enterprise novels?

 

[Admiral Shran]

I personally think it would have been a bad idea for them to go ahead with this idea. Two reasons...

1.) As has been said above, it could very easily have turned into "Acquistion, Part II."
2.) It would have destroyed continuity, at least as I understand it.

The VOY episode "Dragon's Teeth" establishes that the Borg were active in the Delta Quadrant in the year 1484. Therefore, humanity had absolutely nothing to do with their creation. Neither Nomad nor V'Ger created them, sorry.

As for the Queen herself.... Just because the TNG crew didn't deal with her until "First Contact" doesn't mean she didn't exist until then. My belief is that, and I think the VOY relaunch novels have something to say about this with a Royal Protocol, a Queen always existed. Whenever one was killed or rendered unable to continue, another drone would in some fashion be evalated to the position of Queen.

Voyager really messed this up, in my opinion. Alice Krige should not have played the Queen again, even if she did do a wonderful job of it. The "Krige Queen" died in "First Contact." So, when we saw the Queen again in "Dark Frontier," another actress should have played the newly evalated Queen until that one is killed off at the end of the episode. Then, a third actress should have played the Queen in "Unimatrix Zero" and "Endgame," until that one's death.

Therefore, to have Krige play a twenty-second century member of Starfleet who becomes the Borg Queen would have further disrupted continuity. There was a Queen already existing in the Delta Quadrant.

Of course, that's just my opinion; I could be wrong.

 

[Saul]

While it's has been stated that the Borg have been around for a long time the two don't go hand in hand. The Queen could have come after the creation of the Borg.