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How I Learned To Stop Nitpicking And Love The Sybok

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I recall first seeing Sybok and being very, very annoyed. The actor didn't have the right build to be a Vulcan. My previous experience in Trek had led me to believe that stoicism (perhaps not logic, but stoicism) was something that the Vulcan/Romulan physiology lent itself to, and here was "a Vulcan" acting jovial. And I, like Kirk and McCoy in the movie, felt like I knew Spock well enough ;) to know whether or not he had a brother.

Over time, though, I've come to conclude that:
1. Sybok was built like that because he had given up Vulcan dietary habits and embraced eating for pleasure as well as for need.
2. Maybe his lack of stoicism was also related in part to that - much like humans need serotonin to feel joy, there could be something akin to that in the Vulcan physiology that they just don't get a lot of in their chosen diet. Perhaps it is meat derived, and so they gave it up as part of their vegetarianism. Maybe there isn't even that much of it available on their planet anymore after the devastation caused by the various wars they engaged in pre-Reformation. Or it could be an intentional choice based on minimizing emotional responses in general.
3. It is, perhaps, only logical that Sarek would have bred with a Vulcan woman - presumably, he was betrothed to one at age 7 like most other Vulcans, and would go through Pon Farr as expected. If I recall correctly, the implication of the dialog in the film was that that was all *before* Sarek married Amanda, but honestly I can't see why that should be unless the female Vulcan died. Amanda would have to be a very tolerant person, but she *did* marry an alien, so she had to be open to things being just a bit different and difficult at times, too.

I think, also, that part of what Sybok was sharing *back* to people when he was sharing their pain was his own sense of freedom from the expected - letting them know that they don't *have* to be what they think they are. That's what I now take from the reaction of the first guy he did that to at the beginning of the film, anyway.
 
Sybok is cool. Spock being completely confounded by him in most of the film was well done. But then Spock rebuffs Sybok's persuasive appeal thus giving us a crowning moment for the classic triumvirate at the sunset of their careers. Exquisite stuff. .
 
I never had a problem with Sybok. (The movie itself, yeah. But not Sybok.) The fan complaint that always made me laugh is that Spock would have told Kirk about his brother before ST5. Nooo, Spock would never keep a family member secret! ;)
 
I never had a problem with Sybok. (The movie itself, yeah. But not Sybok.) The fan complaint that always made me laugh is that Spock would have told Kirk about his brother before ST5. Nooo, Spock would never keep a family member secret! ;)

Right, and Kirk didn't know who Spock's parents were until the Ambassador and his wife were standing in front of him for over a minute. Wah-waahhhhh
 
I always liked Sybok. I found him an engaging and dynamic character. While I agree - like most fans - that there were problems with the film, the characterizations (including and especially Sybok) was not one of them.
I have no trouble believing that Spock would have kept secret a part of his life that was clearly a family shame.

As an aside, I kinda like the irony that the original Star Trek was greatly aided by Lucille Ball (Desilu Studios) and now her son-in-law played a major guest star.
 
At first, it seems odd that the full Vulcan chose emotion wholeheartedly while the half-Vulcan, half-Human tried to purge it all.

But then maybe it isn't. Spock wants to be accepted by other Vulcans as one of them, while Sybok has rejected that teaching, even though there's no other more emotional blood in his veins, because it's a terrible strain to hold it all in.
 
It should be noted that, the reason for Sarek and Sybok's mother's relationship ending notwithstanding, it is stated in dialog that she was living, and had Sybok with her when Spock was born, and Sybok only came to live with the family when his mother did in fact die.
 
It should be noted that, the reason for Sarek and Sybok's mother's relationship ending notwithstanding, it is stated in dialog that she was living, and had Sybok with her when Spock was born, and Sybok only came to live with the family when his mother did in fact die.
In dialog? Or in one of the novels? I'm not remembering this dialog in the movie. Was it in an extra on the DVD or Blu-Ray, maybe?
 
The novelization goes into it, but I don't recall the movie doing so at all.
 
McCOY: Let me get this straight. You and Sybok have the same father but different mothers.
SPOCK: Exactly. That is correct. Sybok's mother was a Vulcan princess. After her death, Sybok and I were raised as brothers.

It may not contain all of the above, but this is definitely in the movie.
 
I think Sybok is great. I'd love to see the character revisited, although perhaps as an ally rather than an enemy. Spock and Sybok comparing notes about their lives would be fascinating.

It never made sense to me why Sarek, a fairly reasonable guy, would push Spock so hard to be Vulcan rather than human. But factor in a prior full-blooded Vulcan son who was banished for rejecting Surak's non-emotional ways (and inciting others to do so too) and it makes a lot more sense. He's afraid of losing this son too.
 
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