I'm somewhat confused by the timeline in Stargate. When exactly did Merlin return to Earth? Was this before or after Ra set up shop in Giza? If it was before, doesn't that mean that there were Ancients on Earth when the Goa'uld arrived? I was under the impression that the Gould were instrumental in spreading humans as a slave race across the galaxy. If the ancients returned before Ra'a arrival, didn't they have something to say about the arrival of the Goa'uld? Didn't any of the ancients still out in the galaxy have anything to say about the Gould? It seems odd that Merlin was worried about the Ori while totally ignoring the fact that humanity was enslaved already. Speaking of Merlin and the Ori, in order for Merlin's story to have had any impact on Authurian mythology, that would mean that his devolution back into human form happened long after the slaves showed Ra the door. That immediately leads to the question of how did Merlin and his knight leave Earth? The gate was obviously burried in Giza. The Antartica gate should have long since been lost. How did he end up on another planet? If merlin and his knights used the antartica gate, how come the Gould were cut off from Earth? (To be quite honest, the burrial of the Giza gate should not have stopped the Gould at all since the Antartica gatw would once again be the default)
How does Merlin fit in the timeline?
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Miffed at Merlin...
According to Morgan LaFey in 'The Pegasus Project', Myrden/Maldus/Merlin-whatever, retook human form and cheated the ascended rulebook and kept many powers. So, we can assume that he could transport himself and others away at will, or at least, whisk himself and companions to Antartica and use his power to activate the gate. When the Ancients first returned to Earth, humans were more barbaric at that point, so many departed Earth, and the rest-still dying from the plague, concetrated on ascending. While the timeline's majorly fuzzy, we can assume Ra and the other Goauld had left long before their return. It is a headache though...cause it just doesn't fit together.
Something else that's been bothering me about Merlin, is that as an Ascended being who then decended, he would have known that the Wraith didn't die off as they'd hoped would happen by abandoning Pegasus. . So why leave nothing behind that would help the humans there deal with the Wraith? He's breaking so many rules already by researching a way to stop the Ori, and the others didn't immediately stop him, so he should've done something to help out with the Wraith too...
According to Morgan LaFey in 'The Pegasus Project', Myrden/Maldus/Merlin-whatever, retook human form and cheated the ascended rulebook and kept many powers. So, we can assume that he could transport himself and others away at will, or at least, whisk himself and companions to Antartica and use his power to activate the gate. When the Ancients first returned to Earth, humans were more barbaric at that point, so many departed Earth, and the rest-still dying from the plague, concetrated on ascending. While the timeline's majorly fuzzy, we can assume Ra and the other Goauld had left long before their return. It is a headache though...cause it just doesn't fit together.
Something else that's been bothering me about Merlin, is that as an Ascended being who then decended, he would have known that the Wraith didn't die off as they'd hoped would happen by abandoning Pegasus. . So why leave nothing behind that would help the humans there deal with the Wraith? He's breaking so many rules already by researching a way to stop the Ori, and the others didn't immediately stop him, so he should've done something to help out with the Wraith too...
Wait, if the Ancients returned to Earth after the Giza uprising, how exactly did they get back? Both gates were buried at that point. If they came back through the Antartic gate, that would seem to prove that that gate was completely useable....so why didn't the Goa'uld end up there? Burying the Giza gate should have had no impact at all.
As for the Wraith, considering that Merlin and the ancients would have returned to a Milkyway dominated by the System Lords yet did nothing about that either...we can assume that they simply did not think that any threat was more important than the Ori.
Yes, he was the last head of the Lantean High Council.
And to clarify my earlier post, the Ancients returned to Earth and humans were still in the Cro-magnon stage. They died, and only millions of years later, after the Gouald departure, did Myrden/Maldus/Merlin take human form.
Like I said, keeping this all straight is a headache...
The Ancients left Atlantis and returned to Earth around the time Ra first arrived. Aside from both being 10,000 years ago, though, there's no really good information on which would've happened first. I'd assume Ra came after the Ancients returned, since he bought a stargate with him. Apparently, the Ancients were able to deactivate the Antarctic stargate (or its DHD, judging by how it never grabbed incoming wormholes the way the Giza DHD did whenever it was connected) to keep the planet safe, so Ra just assumed there wasn't one there at all, probably because his deputies on other worlds couldn't make a connection to Earth after he calculated what the address would be.
Its an interesting question as to what the Ancients were doing in the thousands of years between their return and telling the Greeks about Atlantis, while the Goa'uld were building their empire. Indeed, the timeline works out so that the Ancients would've still had bodies and spaceships when the Goa'uld were first getting their start.
Its an interesting question as to what the Ancients were doing in the thousands of years between their return and telling the Greeks about Atlantis, while the Goa'uld were building their empire. Indeed, the timeline works out so that the Ancients would've still had bodies and spaceships when the Goa'uld were first getting their start.
The problem is that we know that the Antartic gate was active. That's precisely how the SGC found it in the first place. A malfunction with the primary gate cause the wormhole to jump to the nearest active gate.
That's precisely how we know it's inactive. Whenever the Giza DHD was plugged into a gate, it always pulled all incoming wormholes to it, while the Antarctic DHD never did. Both in "Solitudes" and in "Touchstone," incoming travelers had to overcharge their stargate to make it jump to the antarctic gate, even though the antarctic was DHD connected in both cases. The way I figure it, the Ancients set the antarctic DHD to decline incoming wormholes, just like they did to the Atlantis gate in "Before I Sleep," so the only way to make a connection was to force the stargate to connect by pouring in extra power.
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