The Doctor calls his Type 40, a 'sexy thing '...
The original novels back in the early 1980s refered to TARDIS as "semi sentient".
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The original novels back in the early 1980s refered to TARDIS as "semi sentient".
I would say it’s not just a male thing. For many varied reasons people do form emotional attachments to inanimate objects, projecting virtues and qualities to them that are most certainly not really there. I’ve done it myself and I know both men and women who’ve done it.
I know, too, that if you’ve had good service from something thats lasted many years you can tend to see it as steadfast and reliable. If/when it finally gives out and no longer functions, and is beyond repair, you might feel somewhat let down.
Irrational? Sure.But it’s very human.
I know, too, that if you’ve had good service from something thats lasted many years you can tend to see it as steadfast and reliable. If/when it finally gives out and no longer functions, and is beyond repair, you might feel somewhat let down.
Irrational? Sure.But it’s very human.
Are we talking about Data now?
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I get a good number of customers coming in to finally replace a device that finally crapped out after several years of reliable issue free use. Some even said they felt almost felt like the thing would last forever and they were rather saddened that it finally expired. No, it’s not on the same level as “She’s a beautiful lady and we love her.” but they are experiencing something emotional over an inanimate object.
For me this thread has gone from the dimensions of the Enterprise to how much I miss my iPod. (80GB, disk drive. I loved that thing.)
I miss my mint green 3rd gen iPod Nano. Loved it.
Yeah, someone remarking the TOS E was “just a model” and “just a vehicle for the story” set off the off-topic discussion.
My Dad left me a number of old guns. I'm 69 and I don't want my wife stuck with them (NJ is not very understanding about guns). I sold the ones he brought back from WWII to a collector with great reluctance (but Mom needed money, so I figger he would have liked that). I still have some crappy little pistols he got from his grandfather. I checked serial numbers and these things are 130 years old!! I mean, they're crap and missing parts, but they've been in the family for 130 years!
I'm thinking of finding a gun buyback somewhere and getting 50 bucks each for them (25 times their original cost!). Yeah, it probably sounds odd to y'all, but I'm really feeling emotional about seeing them go. They've around my whole life!
Sort of a ship story: my father told me, after WWII ended, his fighter squadron was disbanded. He said the planes were donated to the Chinese Air Force. He stood there on Okinawa and watched a Chinese pilot take off in the P-47 he'd flown on missions to Japan, got shot up in and almost shot down in; the plane that kept him alive on 500 mile flight back to base with a belly wound. He wasn't ashamed to say he cried a little.
I always get a bit wistful watching the ends of FAME and ST. ELMO'S FIRE, mainly because I was a certain age, and both films suggest major changes are to come.
I assume you've goggled them to make sure they are actually crap, right?
I've lived in a lot of places now in 40 years. Hell, I built my current house. I do not miss them like I do people. I would not be sad over it's loss other than I have to figure out my family's living situation.
Again, as T'Bonz noted it's a credit to the writers to take this fictional place and give it that lived in attachment. Just that living in a place means different things to different people.
"My Precioussssssssssssss!"
In the end of 2023, I had to give up my 2001 Silverado. She had been on her last legs for a bit... the cost to put in a new engine was not a feasible option. I had her since March of 2001... close to 23 years. Almost 330,000 miles. I named her Emma. (Emerald Green was her color.) I had a LOT of great memories with her. And my grandmother got her for me, too.
The shop I sold her to... he told me he was going to put in a new engine, and give her to some farmers not far from there. Totally unexpected, what he said.
I did my absolute best to hold back my tears. I thanked him, and gave Emma one last pat on her hood and said goodbye and thanked her for all those great, wonderful years. Walked about 5 minutes to my wife's car. I got in... and I completely lost it and was crying for about 10 minutes straight.
My grandmother was raised on a farm. She would have been the first one to tell me to sell Emma years before I actually did. It was already a hard decision to do it, but knowing it will be going to farmers... I know she would have been very happy at that outcome. Almost a perfect symmetry there. And knowing that just made me cry harder.
So yes, I completely get exactly why people have those attachments.
Well, it was strictly true for the TARDIS at least once, in "The Doctor's Wife." I haven't watched most of OldWho so I don't know if was ever true back in the day.
True... but after that episode, at least through the rest of Smith and most of Capaldi, there would be moments where the Doctor was clearly communicating with the TARDIS. Not just talking to her, but exchanging information. The showrunners clearly remembered that the TARDIS was aware and capable of acting on her own. So I'd say that for those three or four series' the TARDIS blues the line between setting and character, at the very least.
Which is why her navigation was wonky. It wasn't, she was just doing her job.
Think in terms of the novel 'The Ship Who Sang'.
Think in terms of the novel 'The Ship Who Sang'.
