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Hospitable- Inhostiable

TerokNor

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This year for my birthday I decidet to do friends and family on different days and to not have just a party.... because I do not like parties....at least not the ones I know. Never feel comfortable with all the drinking for example.

So with my best friends I decidet to do a relaxing day on my bithday in a termal bath...hot water, swimming, bubbles, different kind of sauna and that sort of thing.

My family I want to invite 2 days later to an english cream tea (because I rather liked that in England). I also already tested out baking scones and fed them to some friends who enjoyed them.
I will not only have scones, jam, cream and butter, but also an english apple pie (tried this one already out with friends as well and they liked it) and different kind of cookies...however the main thing should be the freshly baken scones.
To this I want to serve tea (of course), but also coffee, water and a collection of juices.
I do NOT want to serve all this artifical sugar bombs (coke etc.) and alcohol, nor do I want to serve the cakes and cookies I know they know and always eat.
Now thats were the problem starts... I will invite for cream tea at my parents house, as they live in the city, where all my family lives (while I live somewhere else).
So my parents now say I cannot do it that way. Well, I am adult, so I decite, but they find as I want to do it at their house they decite as well and they want to be hospitable, therefore they want that I also serve what the people know AND that I do offer them alcohol (mainly beer, wine, champage, but they also love the more heavier things like whisky, liquor ...).
Otherwise they say it is inhostiable.
Now we speak here about a sunday AFTERNOON.
However here alcohol gets always served somehow... my family consists of a majority of heavy drinkers, a minority of light drinkers...and then a minor-minority (which is just me) of non-drinkers.
When someone celebrates and invites for breakfast it is a champagne-breakfast, if you invite for brunch or lunch you need to serve wine, champage and beer at the most, same goes for afternoon-tea and in the evening you of course need to have everything that the alcohol-god ever made. That is the norm.

Now my question: Do you find it inhospitable when I serve them no alcohol and mostly things to eat they do NOT know?

Is that too "radical"? Too imposing?
First I wanted to invite them for a vegetarian buffet...but the outrage was too big. (I am the only vegetarian in the family). What? You cannot have NOT meat! You know they all eat and love meat.
So then I decidet for the cream tea.... but here again...


TerokNor
 
Now my question: Do you find it inhospitable when I serve them no alcohol and mostly things to eat they do NOT know?

Personally, I love being introduced to new cuisines and new foods, I rarely eat meat, and I never drink alcohol, so I would love your English tea. I don't serve guests things that I wouldn't eat or drink myself. My usual guests are okay w/ that, but yours may not be.

You shouldn't totally ignore their expectations. Will they enjoy trying new things, or will they just think you are being pretentious for serving a foreign meal? Are you going to enjoy explaining what everything is and what fond memories you have of English tea?

Also, since this is going to be at your parents', you have to consider their point of view. They are co-hosting the party. If I were in your position, I would try to compromise w/ your parents.

Perhaps the English tea exactly as you planned it, with the addition of one form of alcohol. Champagne is the most festive and would be my own choice.

Whenever it is... Happy Birthday!
 
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I agree, you shouldn't be so rigid about what you are going to cook and serve especially when you are at someone else's place AND food that they do not know.
 
You got a bunch of alcoholics in your family? People who can’t imagine someone can have a good time without alcohol being involved?

I agree on mixing in a bit of “regular” food and maybe SOME light alcohol (wine/champagne), but if you’re paying, you get to have the majority of control. If that means primarily the tea food and very little alcohol, so be it.

As for vegetarian food only, there is nothing preventing vegetarian food from being hardy and filling. It may cost more, but if made right, hot vegetarian dishes and such are every bit as filling as meat dishes.
 
It's your birthday. Do whatever you want. If they want to go out and buy extra stuff, they can do it themselves.
 
Yes, it's your birthday and your party, whether you're holding it at your parents' place or not; you decide what's being served. Never in my life have I tried to dictate what someone should serve me at a party.
 
*grumbles* Well...I have to think about it, if I do a smallish compromize....maybe I really should mix in some of the things they know and like (though mostly for not having my mother worry, that this house could come across as inhospitable...).
Hmm..ah...I could bake some Bulla. They love Bulla, its a tradition thing for this family done around Christmas.
And maybe a smallish amount of alcoholic stuff for a toast... have to see...though I´d really love not to do that... just because...out of spite you could say. The drinking habits of this family annoy me since ever.

Thanks for your opinions.

TerokNor
 
Birthday Party!

Booze [Check!]
Pizza [Check!]
Strippers [Check!]

;)
 
No, it is a little round cinnamon thing...I think orginally its swedish... very tasty when its fresh and warm.

TerokNor
 
Dough:
1kg flour
75g yeast
500ml milk
150ml sugar
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon cardamom
150g butter

Filling: Butter, sugar and cinnamon. The Recepe says 75g butter and 1 tablespoon sugar and cinnamon each, however we always make more filling, because that taste better...I think we always take at least 100g butter and around 3 spoons sugar and cinnamon each.

The dough is made like a normal yeast dough, then you let it rest in a warm place for 40 minutes.
For the filling you melt the butter and mix the other stuff inside.
You then part the dough in three parts, rolle them out flat, spread the filling all over it and then you roll it up, so that you get a snale muster sort off. Then you cut the roll in 2cm big pieces, turn them the way that you can see the muster, and the upper part you brush with egg.
Then bake it in the oven for around 8 minutes...well till they are golden- brown. Oven must be preheated, 275 degree celsius.
Eat them warm.

TerokNor
 
*grumbles* Well...I have to think about it, if I do a smallish compromize....maybe I really should mix in some of the things they know and like (though mostly for not having my mother worry, that this house could come across as inhospitable...).
Hmm..ah...I could bake some Bulla. They love Bulla, its a tradition thing for this family done around Christmas.
And maybe a smallish amount of alcoholic stuff for a toast... have to see...though I´d really love not to do that... just because...out of spite you could say. The drinking habits of this family annoy me since ever.

Thanks for your opinions.

TerokNor

Serving Bulla sounds like a good compromise (as well as delicious! Can you send leftovers to Canada :D) - if I was you, I'd stand firm on the no alcohol because it annoys you. It's a Sunday afternoon and you're specifically inviting people to "English Tea" - no alcohol is needed.
 
An English Cream Tea goes very well with a Champagne. A glass or two of champers on a Sunday Afternoon seems very appropriate to me. Just don't get a bone-dry one; demi-sec is about right as you need the moderate dosage to complement the sweetness of everything else.

I strongly recommend you at least try the combination; it's a remarkable pairing. The biscuity/yeasty flavour goes brilliantly with scones, and the slight sweetness with acidity complements everything.

Have a bottle or two alongside a couple of pots of Darjeeling, and everything should go swimmingly well. :cool:



On a more general note, part of good hospitality is taking reasonable steps to ensure your guests are happy. If you do not like making specific guests happy (or if doing things to make them happy, makes you UNhappy) the obvious solution is not to invite them, so both you and they can have a more enjoyable Sunday afternoon separate from each other. You can't expect others to march to your beat, but neither are you under an obligation to invite them to events you host.
 
After the discussion with my father right now I am thinking about not inviting anyone at all. *looks irritated*

You have to think about on a Sunday afternoon people often are busy with meeting other family members.
You should better invite for breakfast therefore and a "normal" one at that. You should not try out food they don´t know. You cannot bake those unknown things in my kitchen, do it at your place (sure I bake them 4 days before the day, travel the 4 hours over here and somehow keep them fresh and warm till the time I want to serve them ..haha).
I don´t trust your taste...what you like, others probably don´t. (I feel quite a bit offendet by that!) ...

:klingon:

TerokNor
 
You cannot bake those unknown things in my kitchen, do it at your place

:wtf: What does he think they're going to do, contaminate his oven?! People who are unwilling to try something new to eat are missing out on so much.

I'm sorry it isn't working out, TerokNor.
 
*sigh* Well...I guess I have to give in, invite for a traditional breakfast, save my energy for more important matters than fighting my parents about this and be done with it.

Though what annoys and saddens me the most is, that they don´t seem to trust me that I can get things right and that I can think on my own...and that they not really accept me as the person I am (though I know they love me very much and I do love them too)...but still... the sum of all those little painful remarks over the years let me slowly grow harder inside.

TerokNor
 
I suggest you stop seeking their approval. Next time, tell them you're having your birthday without them.
 
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