HEROES 3x05 "Angels and Monsters" Discuss and Grade

[Dream]

Spoiler: summary

Claire hunts a Level 5 escapee. Peter sees changes in himself after fleeing the future. Ando frets over Hiro's decision to befriend Daphne. Suresh tries to fix research errors. Linderman encourages the pairing of Nathan and Tracy.

Looks like Sylar is pissed that Noah will be taking first place in the Hurt/Heal game.

 

[JD]

I'm very curious about this episode since it

Spoiler: HUGE SPOILER-click at your own risk

introduces Arthur Patrelli, Nathan, Peter, and Sylar's father.

 

[McCoy]

"Ando frets over Hiro's decision to befriend Daphne."

You know that scene where Hiro sees Ando kill him? And he tells Ando that he has turned into a villain in the future? I'm betting it's the other way 'round. I betcha Hiro turns bad (or at least misguided) and Ando is still trying to save the world.

You heard it here first.

 

[Darth_Daver]

"Ando frets over Hiro's decision to befriend Daphne."

You know that scene where Hiro sees Ando kill him? And he tells Ando that he has turned into a villain in the future? I'm betting it's the other way 'round. I betcha Hiro turns bad (or at least misguided) and Ando is still trying to save the world.

You heard it here first.

I called it weeks ago

 

[Dream]

I'm very curious about this episode since it

Spoiler: HUGE SPOILER-click at your own risk

introduces Arthur Patrelli, Nathan, Peter, and Sylar's father.

I hope that person will only appear in flashbacks.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

"Ando frets over Hiro's decision to befriend Daphne."

You know that scene where Hiro sees Ando kill him? And he tells Ando that he has turned into a villain in the future? I'm betting it's the other way 'round. I betcha Hiro turns bad (or at least misguided) and Ando is still trying to save the world.

You heard it here first.

I called it weeks ago

Hah, I remember calling that one too. (I was surprised to find out in the episode thread that we were expected to believe that Ando was the bad one - I didn't get that from the scene at all - I interpreted it as having the potential to go either way.)

Let's hope Heroes ratings rebounds like the stock market - not that the audience has "vanished" after all. Check out the DVR numbers, which bump Heroes up to 12M viewers. Networks haven't been able to twist advertisers' arms to use the Live+7 figures in ad rates but they do count for in-show product placement. Expect to see a lot more ads for Nisan Versa and Sprint.

NBC is also interested in a so-far vague strategy of leveraging shows to new media. That means shows like Heroes, The Office but also Chuck and Knight Rider that appeal to a tech-savvy audience will get more leeway even if the Nielsens get iffy. That probably goes a long ways towards explaining why Chuck and Knight Rider are being treated better than their ratings would justify. Also, both shows are perfect product-placement venues.

 

[JD]

I'm very curious about this episode since it

Spoiler: HUGE SPOILER-click at your own risk

introduces Arthur Patrelli, Nathan, Peter, and Sylar's father.

I hope that person will only appear in flashbacks.

From what I've read and seen I'm pretty sure that's not the case. I have to admit that I have mixed feelings on this, on one hand I think it's just a shock for the sake of having another shock, but on the other hand I'm curious to see what he has to do with everything that's going on.

 

[Captain Fine]

Does anyone else find Linderman Six-esque?

 

[Gertch]

Does anyone else find Linderman Six-esque?

No. Obiwan-esque.

 

[melancholymecha]

ah, Linderman is NOT only in Nate's head?

 

[FALCONX0N]

Does anyone else find Linderman Six-esque?

No. Obiwan-esque.

No, The First-esque.

 

[Gertch]

^

Is this dragging for anyone else?

 

[Darth_Daver]

Does anyone else find Linderman Six-esque?

Yeah, definitely in his red dress... Oh wait... Wrong show...

 

[melancholymecha]

Im really enjoying this episode.

 

[Captain Fine]

LOL the cantina.

wait, nikki and barbara???

 

[Dorian Thompson]

I thought Jessica was the third triplet. Was Jessica an older sister?

 

[melancholymecha]

Please Mo kill Maya & then just kill yourself. Theyve already taken your character down the gutter.

Edit: yes it was JESSICA. Durh! Heroes writers!

 

[romulus]

Does anyone else find Linderman Six-esque?

Yeah, definitely in his red dress... Oh wait... Wrong show...

Me too. Writers copy each other for shows still going on now?

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Actually it might be more complicated than that. Linderman is ALIVE!!!!111!

 

[Captain Fine]

Erm doesn't Sylar have super hearing?

 

[Skywalker]

Erm doesn't Sylar have super hearing?

Shut up! You'll ruin everything!