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HEADLINE- "If not a reboot, then maybe a boo-boot?"

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Star Trek XI is a "re-introduction," not a reboot, says J.J. Abrams, an effort to "re-introduce these characters in a different way."

"They are the characters from the original 'Star Trek," he insisted, "not a complete re-imagining..."

How the characters can be the same when the "different way" means the entire world around them including specific events of their history have been either ignored or altered was not explained. Nor did he explain how giving "the same" characters a different start than they had before fails to constitute a reboot.

This reporter will update you on any further developements on this story as they become available.

Don't hold your breath.






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I'm excited to see the movie, and I think it will be enjoyed.
There's too many important things in life to worry about the small stuff.
Just enjoy the movie. ;)

J.
 
Abrams really should just apologize profusely for saying this isn't a re-boot, when clearly it is. Just because Nimoy's in the film doesn't make it adhere to old trek. This is the only problem I have with this film, and it's not even a criticism of the film.
 
Abrams really should just apologize profusely for saying this isn't a re-boot, when clearly it is. Just because Nimoy's in the film doesn't make it adhere to old trek. This is the only problem I have with this film, and it's not even a criticism of the film.

But if the time travel elements themselves initiate the canon changes, then it is or isn't a re-boot, depending on your perspective.
 
If it just ends up being the TOS universe at the end that has already been established...I will feel cheated.

If we're gonna do something new, let's not stop halfway.
 
Abrams really should just apologize profusely for saying this isn't a re-boot, when clearly it is. Just because Nimoy's in the film doesn't make it adhere to old trek. This is the only problem I have with this film, and it's not even a criticism of the film.

No.
 
If it just ends up being the TOS universe at the end that has already been established...I will feel cheated.

If we're gonna do something new, let's not stop halfway.

I kinda agree with you there, if the film ends with a big reset button I can't see how that wouldn't be a bit of a bummer. I'd rather they continue on with the altered timeline than force a reset at the end.
 
If we're gonna do something new, let's not stop halfway.
Agreed. Abrams should have changed the name of all the characters, renamed the Enterprise, converted the Federation to the Republic of the Milky Way, and discarded all Star Trek icons and symbology.

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Abrams really should just apologize profusely for saying this isn't a re-boot, when clearly it is. Just because Nimoy's in the film doesn't make it adhere to old trek. This is the only problem I have with this film, and it's not even a criticism of the film.
I think people need to remove the word "re-boot" from their vocabulary.

And I certainly don't think Abrams owes us an apology for anything. It's his movie. He can do whatever the hell he wants with it.
 
Abrams really should just apologize profusely for saying this isn't a re-boot, when clearly it is. Just because Nimoy's in the film doesn't make it adhere to old trek. This is the only problem I have with this film, and it's not even a criticism of the film.
I think people need to remove the word "re-boot" from their vocabulary.

And I certainly don't think Abrams owes us an apology for anything. It's his movie. He can do whatever the hell he wants with it.


I disagree.

Somethings are sacred!

If this movie turns out to be a Phantom Menace or a Matrix Reloaded, then yeah, he owes us an apology.
 
Abrams really should just apologize profusely for saying this isn't a re-boot, when clearly it is. Just because Nimoy's in the film doesn't make it adhere to old trek. This is the only problem I have with this film, and it's not even a criticism of the film.
I think people need to remove the word "re-boot" from their vocabulary.

And I certainly don't think Abrams owes us an apology for anything. It's his movie. He can do whatever the hell he wants with it.


I disagree.

Somethings are sacred!

If this movie turns out to be a Phantom Menace or a Matrix Reloaded, then yeah, he owes us an apology.
And I disagree with that.

WE are not entitled to anything.
 
I think people need to remove the word "re-boot" from their vocabulary.

And I certainly don't think Abrams owes us an apology for anything. It's his movie. He can do whatever the hell he wants with it.


I disagree.

Somethings are sacred!

If this movie turns out to be a Phantom Menace or a Matrix Reloaded, then yeah, he owes us an apology.
And I disagree with that.

WE are not entitled to anything.


Sure we are.

We've supported this thing with billions of dollars for 40 fucking years.

If he fucks it up, he should apologize!
 
And I certainly don't think Abrams owes us an apology for anything. It's his movie. He can do whatever the hell he wants with it.
True, and people are free to watch it or not, and to like it or not, and to praise it or complain about it.

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I'm withholding judgment until MattJC chimes in.
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I think Abrams is making a valid and important point with that distinction between his movie and some reboots - such as Moore's Galactica (which I love). James Kirk may meet Pike at the "wrong" point in history or the Enterprise may be built in the "wrong" place, but in the end Captain Kirk is Captain Kirk and Spock is Spock and McCoy is McCoy. Everything looks different - some things a little bit, other things a lot - but the furniture is all still pretty much in place.
 
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