Have the Q ever told an untruth?

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by The Borg Queen, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. The Borg Queen

    The Borg Queen Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jul 31, 2006
    Does it matter?
    I was thinking back to the Voyager episode Death Wish where Tuvok asks Quinn if the Q have any weaknesses.

    Has there ever been a situation in The Next Generation or Voyager where a Q has outright lied about something?

    I don't mean a half-truth, or whatever, but actually stated categorically something that is contrary to reality?
  2. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Admiral Admiral

    Nov 5, 2008
    King Daniel Beyond
    He told Janeway that the Q have never reproduced, directly contradicting the Next Gen episode "True Q" - but that wasn't an in-universe lie, it was the writers pretending the prior episode never happened.

    As for a real fib told in-universe, I'm not sure.
  3. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Aug 26, 2003
    Relating to the above, Q originally told the Borg are neither male nor female, yet we saw people turned into Drones and back seemingly without the loss of those things that traditionally define "male" and "female". I guess it's a matter of interpretation.

    Q also claimed mankind was declared not guilty of savagery in "Farpoint" but backpedaled in his very next appearance...

    Timo Saloniemi
  4. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

    Jul 23, 2001
    The Q in question in True Q of course left the continuum and became human when they reporduced, so technically that wasn't a lie, just the truth from a certain point of view.
  5. CoveTom

    CoveTom Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jul 17, 2003
    In "True Q," Q tells the crew that Amanda's parents died in an accident when, in fact, they were executed by the Continuum. He also agrees with Picard that Amanda will be allowed to choose her path, when in fact he already knows she has to go back to the Continuum whether she wants to or not. Seems like two lies to me.
  6. R. Star

    R. Star Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jun 15, 2012
    Vash mentioned that some Gamma Quadrant race called Q the God of Lies. So... yes?
  7. Mage

    Mage Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jun 17, 2007

    About Amanda's parents... to Q, it was an accident. It doesn't matter that they caused it, to them, their deaths were caused by accidents.

    They are their judges, they don't define lies and truths the way we do. So saying that they are lying, is a judgement from out viewpoints, not theirs.