Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Federatio

[ConRefit79]

We know from TNG, Voyager and Enterprise that the Federation evolves into a time traveling people. Has B&B ever offered an explanation on why the Borg failed to assimilate the Federation or if they still exist in the distant future? I always thought they would finally do a mass invasion like they do in the Destiny Series. Just curious if B&B considered them destroyed in End Game or set back for centuries.

 

[Christopher]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

Well, Berman had nothing to do with it, but Braga wrote an IDW Comics miniseries called Hive involving an attempt to undo a distant future where the Borg have successfully conquered the galaxy.

Spoiler: Hive

Eventually the Borg were destroyed in the 2380s by a virus sent back from that future, but Seven of Nine gave her life in the process.

 

[ConRefit79]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

Well, Berman had nothing to do with it, but Braga wrote an IDW Comics miniseries called Hive involving an attempt to undo a distant future where the Borg have successfully conquered the galaxy.

Sounds like the Destiny Series handled it much better.

 

[BillJ]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

Well, Berman had nothing to do with it, but Braga wrote an IDW Comics miniseries called Hive involving an attempt to undo a distant future where the Borg have successfully conquered the galaxy.

Sounds like the Destiny Series handled it much better.

I actually thought Hive was pretty good and generally I'm not a fan of Brannon Braga.

 

[JamesGarfield]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

Borg Trivia:

What 2 races did the Borg deem UNworthy of assimilation?

 

[M.A.C.O.]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

Brannon Braga's HIVE seemed like a do-over of Endgame. While I liked the story, it did seem more on the fanfic side. With Braga killing off Seven by the stories conclusion. His stated intention during Endgame but couldn't because Kenneth Biller was running VOY season 7.

Borg Trivia:

What 2 races did the Borg deem UNworthy of assimilation?

Talaxian and the Vegetable Paper Mache head/tomato people, Kazon or whatever they were called.

 

[Enterprise1701]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

I think Star Trek Online is having the Federation leading the gradual annihilation of the Borg by brute force.

 

[Cyke101]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

I think Star Trek Online is having the Federation leading the gradual annihilation of the Borg by brute force.

Leading, but AQ powers have allied themselves with a faction of liberated Borg drones.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

We know from TNG, Voyager and Enterprise that the Federation evolves into a time traveling people. Has B&B ever offered an explanation on why the Borg failed to assimilate the Federation or if they still exist in the distant future?

As for the former...there'd be no show if the Borg won, so therefore the writers would be required to always ensure that they eventually lose.

The latter? Depends on which continuity you are looking at.

Spoiler: novels

In the one that most of the current novels are following, the collective ceases to exist (in the Destiny trilogy) and all drones are liberated. In ST Online, however, the Borg are still around. Probably because STO revolves around near-constant war, and if the Borg are around it gives everyone more excuses to fight.

 

[tharpdevenport]

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Another good question wopuld be: how come they are only targetting the Federation? Surely the Romulans and other nearby races should have battles and assimilation attempts and at least one success -- no way everybody beat them.

 

[Ithekro]

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Everytime they try to assimulate some species in the AQ or even BQ, some hero ship shows up and defeats them at the last minute.

 

[B.J.]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

Another good question wopuld be: how come they are only targetting the Federation? Surely the Romulans and other nearby races should have battles and assimilation attempts and at least one success -- no way everybody beat them.

Everytime they try to assimulate some species in the AQ or even BQ, some hero ship shows up and defeats them at the last minute.

It would give Tomalok something to do.

 

[T'Girl]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

Another good question wopuld be: how come they are only targetting the Federation?

In The Neutral Zone, Romulan worlds were attacked by the Borg too.

 

[Cyke101]

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There was dialogue in a TNG episode of Borg wreckage being found in Klingon space. VOY also had a flashback of a Klingon fleet battling the Borg. I'd like to think that they're both the same instance, but even if they're two different events, that's still evidence of the Borg fighting more than just the Federation.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

Another good question wopuld be: how come they are only targetting the Federation?

In The Neutral Zone, Romulan worlds were attacked by the Borg too.

IIRC, that was implied, but never fully confirmed via on-screen dialog, although I can't remember if that was specifically the case. It would explain why they all of a sudden appeared out of nowhere with these monster Warbirds twice the size of a Galaxy class. Picard seeing Andrew Probert's "Vertibird" for the first time would have been even more jaw-dropping.

 

[Timo]

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The Romulans in "TNZ" claimed their outposts had been destroyed "in the exact same manner" to those of the Federation. And later episodes directly associated the UFP losses of outposts with Borg work (Data says the destruction in "Q Who?" is identical to that of "TNZ").

But we have no specific reason to think the Romulans were telling the truth in "TNZ". It would be in their interests to lie, simply to make the UFP look guilty, as the Feds can't really contest the claim. Yet they immediately confess to not suspecting the Federation of the destruction. Do the Romulans lie because they want to look like victims, perhaps as an excuse to them then proceeding with major military escalation? Possible, but their very appearance in that menacing warbird suggests they have no need to ask for permission to escalate.

We know that individual Romulans have been assimilated by the Borg (VOY "Unity"), but nothing connects this to the Neutral Zone destruction.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Richard Baker]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

There was dialogue in a TNG episode of Borg wreckage being found in Klingon space. VOY also had a flashback of a Klingon fleet battling the Borg. I'd like to think that they're both the same instance, but even if they're two different events, that's still evidence of the Borg fighting more than just the Federation.

Which episode in Voyager showed a Klingon/Borg Battle? The only thing I remember is seeing a Klingon who had been assimilated in 'Unimatrix Zero'.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

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^ I think it was "Unity".

 

[The Wormhole]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

The Romulans in "TNZ" claimed their outposts had been destroyed "in the exact same manner" to those of the Federation. And later episodes directly associated the UFP losses of outposts with Borg work (Data says the destruction in "Q Who?" is identical to that of "TNZ").

But we have no specific reason to think the Romulans were telling the truth in "TNZ". It would be in their interests to lie, simply to make the UFP look guilty, as the Feds can't really contest the claim. Yet they immediately confess to not suspecting the Federation of the destruction. Do the Romulans lie because they want to look like victims, perhaps as an excuse to them then proceeding with major military escalation? Possible, but their very appearance in that menacing warbird suggests they have no need to ask for permission to escalate.

It was of course the original intent that it was indeed the Borg who were responsible for destroying the Romulan outposts. Indeed, The Neutral Zone would have introduced the Borg had their been enough budget left over.

Now, yes, in the end things are left vague enough that if someone wanted to tell a story revealing it was not in fact the Borg who destroyed those outposts, they could without contradicting anything. But 26 years later, with Prime continuity effectively shut down, I don't think we're going to learn any such things any time soon.

 

[Vandervecken]

Re: Has B&B ever indicated why the Borg failed to assimilate the Feder

with Prime continuity effectively shut down

Man that is a depressing phrase.