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Hamilton a game changer for musicals or a one off?

Vanyel

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Hamilton, is a popular, energetic, and well done musical. However, as far as I know, it is the only one to use rap music as it's primary motif. Using people of color to play historical people who were white, is also different for musicals. Do you think this trend will continue (aside from the inevitable rip offs) and change how musicals are written, sung and cast, or is it a one off phenomenon that will get repeated with less success until it fades into history and remembered as a successful experiment?
 
I have the soundtrack, too ( I LOVE IT), and I think the show will definitely have an impact; mixing the styles of music will probably become more popular and trendy on Broadway. Nothing spawns imitation like success. As to having a diverse cast--I hope so. I hope it instigates more diverse casting but I don't expect the change to happen overnight. I think it will be far more gradual.
 
Hamilton, is a popular, energetic, and well done musical. However, as far as I know, it is the only one to use rap music as it's primary motif. Using people of color to play historical people who were white, is also different for musicals. Do you think this trend will continue (aside from the inevitable rip offs) and change how musicals are written, sung and cast, or is it a one off phenomenon that will get repeated with less success until it fades into history and remembered as a successful experiment?

Broadway has cast minorities for traditionally white characters before. Think Lea Salonga in Les Mis. What's unprecedented is having people of color as the majority of the cast.

I'm obsessed with the soundtrack and I hope it inspires more innovative stuff on Broadway.
 
Broadway has cast minorities for traditionally white characters before. Think Lea Salonga in Les Mis. What's unprecedented is having people of color as the majority of the cast.

Yes, but Eponine and Fantine are fictional characters, Lea has played both. Black men have played the Phantom, in PotO, and Javert and Ejolras in Les Miz, and other characters.

I guess I'm asking, if the trend continues, would it be okay to cast a white or Asian actor in the role of a black historical figure? Yes, it's been done in the past, I remember the hubub around Miss Saigon, having a white actor playing an Asian role, but again, it was a fictional character. Historical figures vs. fictional characters; have we as a society come far enough to accept that? I can see the appeal of what Hamilton did by casting minorities, but would it work the other way around?

Another example is the revival of West Side Story using Hispanic actors for the Sharks and their girls and even translating some songs and dialog into Spanish. It worked well to me because I understood the lyrics and dialog, some didn't. The first few lines of Un Hombre Asi (A Boy Like That), were changed back to English because it was thought people wouldn't get the full impact of "A boy like that who'd kill your brother" against "Ese cabrón mató tu hermano." My mind didn't have to translate much because I already knew the songs, as I suspect most people who see musicals would. (That's a poorly constructed sentence, forgive me.)

I'm asking to see what people think, because if any person of any race can play a historical figure of any race, then Hamilton has become a game changer, if not, what does it say, if anything, about our society?
 
Yes, but Eponine and Fantine are fictional characters, Lea has played both. Black men have played the Phantom, in PotO, and Javert and Ejolras in Les Miz, and other characters.

I guess I'm asking, if the trend continues, would it be okay to cast a white or Asian actor in the role of a black historical figure? Yes, it's been done in the past, I remember the hubub around Miss Saigon, having a white actor playing an Asian role, but again, it was a fictional character. Historical figures vs. fictional characters; have we as a society come far enough to accept that? I can see the appeal of what Hamilton did by casting minorities, but would it work the other way around?

Another example is the revival of West Side Story using Hispanic actors for the Sharks and their girls and even translating some songs and dialog into Spanish. It worked well to me because I understood the lyrics and dialog, some didn't. The first few lines of Un Hombre Asi (A Boy Like That), were changed back to English because it was thought people wouldn't get the full impact of "A boy like that who'd kill your brother" against "Ese cabrón mató tu hermano." My mind didn't have to translate much because I already knew the songs, as I suspect most people who see musicals would. (That's a poorly constructed sentence, forgive me.)

I'm asking to see what people think, because if any person of any race can play a historical figure of any race, then Hamilton has become a game changer, if not, what does it say, if anything, about our society?

I have to admit I was a skeptic at first when I heard they cast minorities into the roles of historical figures (even though I liked with Miranda did for In the Heights). All of that went away when I streamed the soundtrack. I don't know if other shows will follow suit for historical figures but I'm sure casting will get more diverse overall.
 
Well, we as Star Trek fans who can accept an Englishman playing a Frenchmen, should have no trouble with expanding minority casting to fictional characters. I'm hoping for more diverse casting based on talent, not just because we need to have more diverse casting.
 
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