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Halloween (2018)

Just saw it and didn't care for it one bit.

The most disappointing aspect of Halloween is it falls victim to everything so many of the previous sequels could never quite understand or capture about the original film.

It seemed clear that Halloween had nothing but good things going for it: its two producing partners wanted to take the series back to its roots and understood (so we thought) what made the original work. The movie was ignoring the long and complicated canon established by an almost exhaustive string of sequels. Jamie Lee Curtis and John Carpenter return -- with the added bonus of Mr. Carpenter doing the film's music. All the right ingredients were there to deliver, what looked to be, a worthy sequel, but the souffle never rose.

The original was made on the cheap for 300k, filmed in twenty days, and was just Carpenter and his buddies making a scary movie that they hoped people would see and enjoy. They didn't set out to set a trend for horror movies or attempt to change the genre. They were, as Carpenter said, "a bunch of kids making a movie."

And that's the problem I see with this new one; it's a terribly over-engineered, too-carefully crafted film that thinks it's above the previous sequels to say, "No, guys, we got this. THIS is the Halloween sequel you've wanted."

And one would think, since this film erases every sequel after the original -- all of which by the way did nothing but add a terribly corny and uninteresting mythology -- that this "back to basics" approach would simplify things and allow this movie to build suspense.

But it does not.

Instead, Halloween is an extremely uneven and frustrating experience which lacks any kind of focus and only seems to get by with its occasionally satisfying bursts of nostalgia.

Halloween H20 handled this plot in a much more believable way. Similarly Laurie is traumatized by the event all those years ago, but it's a far more rewarding experience to see her stop, turn, and finally confront this demon that has haunted her since 1978.

Here she's preparing for it, but the opportunity only presents itself because the characters lead Michael to her by accident. Michael is not pursuing Laurie. Instead, he kills anyone around him, but, not to reach Laurie, because he's out "in the wild." If Michael escaped three states over, he wouldn't be making his way back to Laurie to finish what he started forty years ago.

And at no point does Halloween take full advantage of its somewhat unique circumstances and try to bring this series to a satisfying conclusion.

There is some good news, however and that is that Halloween is one of the better sequels to come along in the franchise. But, understand that it is a fairly low bar.
 
Carpenter's record label Sacred Bones Records has put his entire score on YouTube for free for the time being. Carpenter co-wrote it with his Lost Themes collaborators (his son and godson) and it is lit. If you haven't seen the movie yet be careful with the track listing in the comments. The titles for Tracks 19-21 are spoilerific, but they made sure to note that there's spoilers and left a nice gap in there. Just don't scroll down.
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Not a bad movie, but could have been so much better. Biggest thing missing was atmosphere and suspense, the very ingredients that separated this franchise from the others. On the plus side, Jamie Lee Curtis was in top form and they got Myers right from the mask all the way down to the walk.
 
One scene I didn't like, oddly enough, was when we follow Michael through those two homes where he just walks in and murders those innocents. Now granted, yes, it is Michael satisfying his need to kill, but he didn't do that in the original film. It's well-established that he was stalking and following Laurie and her friends, so, we know he's around somewhere. He didn't just venture into a no-name's house and butcher them.

In this new version, Michael didn't set his sights on anyone and while we can all agree none of the sequels in this long series match up to the original, the one thing they at least did right was giving Michael a target to pursue. Any other person he killed was just in his path to getting to where he was trying to get to.
 
He has in in for auto mechanics in their garage--so points for that (having been ripped off by them).
On a side note, in a recent BIG BANG THEORY episode, it was said the original mask was a Kirk mask--but inside out. That's a new one on me.
 
There is some good news, however and that is that Halloween is one of the better sequels to come along in the franchise. But, understand that it is a fairly low bar.

So, "one of the better sequels", but not the best. Would that still be Halloween II, the film most feel was the only sequel worth considering?
 
So, "one of the better sequels", but not the best. Would that still be Halloween II, the film most feel was the only sequel worth considering?

I don't know. I like Halloween II quite a bit, but Halloween 4 is also a very good sequel as well. One of the later sequels, Halloween H20 treads the same territory this one does, but, is a tighter and far more satisfying story.
 
I watched the latest when it came out. It was okay. Better than most of the Halloween sequels I've seen, IMO. However it didn't live up to the hype. It was cool seeing Jamie Lee Curtis again, and I thought Granddaughter Strode was okay. I was iffy on the Laurie's daughter, especially after watching the middle Halloween films recently. I think it would've been nice to cast Danielle Harris in that role. It's stunt casting, but a nice nod to the Halloween franchise overall.

The anti-Dr. Loomis went nowhere and the 'twist' of Michael just randomly killing and not have a tie to Laurie didn't do anything for me. Why even go back to Haddonfield? I also felt the ending was underwhelming, including the breathing at the very end, which didn't really wrap up everything. If anything, the film took inspiration from H20, though taking Laurie's character in a different direction, but the idea of Laurie dealing with trauma and fighting back wasn't new to the latest film. Also, the possibility of the evil being passed on was in the fourth Halloween film and also in Rob Zombie's Halloween II.

If they do another one, I'll go see it, but I'm not stoked to see another one. And after watching a lot of the others I can say that the Halloween franchise overall is not one of my favorites. Not bad, but seldom great.
 
I didn't enjoy this movie. It was really boring. I don't know where the rave reviews are coming from. Jamie Lee Curtis was great as always but it was the least scary horror movie I've seen since The Nun. The only sequels I'd put it above are Resurrection and Halloween Reboot Part 2.

Still at least Laurie Strode is alive again and maybe future sequels will be more exciting.
 
I don't know. I like Halloween II quite a bit, but Halloween 4 is also a very good sequel as well. One of the later sequels, Halloween H20 treads the same territory this one does, but, is a tighter and far more satisfying story.

I see.

Personally, I was satisfied with Halloween II wrapping up the Myers story--not necessary, but if it was going to be produced, I doubt there was any way for it surpass the end result.
 
I didn't enjoy this movie. It was really boring. I don't know where the rave reviews are coming from. Jamie Lee Curtis was great as always but it was the least scary horror movie I've seen since The Nun. The only sequels I'd put it above are Resurrection and Halloween Reboot Part 2.

Still at least Laurie Strode is alive again and maybe future sequels will be more exciting.

I thought The Nun was scarier. The Nun had problems, but there were some creepy scenes. There wasn't much that terrified in the new Halloween.

How I rank the Halloween films I've seen:
Halloween (2007)
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween (1978)
Halloween (2018)
Halloween: Resurrection
H20: Twenty Years Later
Halloween: The Revenge of Michael Myers
Halloween: The Return of Michael Myers
Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers
Halloween II
(2009)
 
I'd rank them

Halloween 1978
Halloween H20
Halloween 4
Halloween 5
Halloween 2
Halloween 6
Halloween Remake
Halloween 2018
Halloween Resurrection
Halloween Remake 2
 
I thought The Nun was scarier. The Nun had problems, but there were some creepy scenes. There wasn't much that terrified in the new Halloween.

How I rank the Halloween films I've seen:
Halloween (2007)
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween (1978)
Halloween (2018)
Halloween: Resurrection
H20: Twenty Years Later
Halloween: The Revenge of Michael Myers
Halloween: The Return of Michael Myers
Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers
Halloween II
(2009)

Never seen anyone rank a sequel over the original, nor 5 before 4 and Resurrection before H20.
 
This was my first Halloween flick, and I have a number of glaring questions.

The question haunting me when I walked out of the theater was, how did she pay for that house?
That's one. The others:

- Why does Laurie, after seeing Myers' killing spree scene in broad daylight, take hours upon hours to contact her family (at night)?
- Why do neither Laurie nor her daughter Karen seem all that concerned about finding/rescuing the granddaughter? They loiter around in the basement instead.
- Why doesn't Laurie turn on the floodlights around the house the minute she gets home that night?
- Why is the interior of the house so poorly lit, when floodlights have been installed on the roof?
- How does the granddaughter get onto the property? Isn't it fenced, presumably with barb wire? Ditto for Myers?
- Why has Laurie installed elaborate gates on individual house rooms, but doesn't consult her security cameras when tracking Myers? Or even, hell, spread flour across the floors, to track footprints? Why is she so bad at tactics in her own home despite decades of prep time?!
- Why did social services take Laurie's daughter away, anyhow? Lots of kids are raised by gun-loving oddballs without the state intervening. What made this situation so disastrous?
 
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