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Got sick of Windows 7, went back to Vista

GalaxyX

GalaxyX

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The reason I got sick of it is because of so many compability issues.

Half my software doesn't work with it, and both my MSI TV Tuner and Audiophile 128 Soundcards do not work with the Vista Drivers (they require too much low level access I guess).

Also my work VPN setup does not work under Win 7, so I had to go back down to Vista as I occasionally need to access work stuff on my home PC.

Man, it is true, Vista is much slower for some reason. Accessing the HDD is what kills the speed. Everything seems to take forever with Vista even when fully loaded up. Also the Aero feel is much slower. Windows take longer to open and close. I do notice that Vista is more eyecandyish than Win 7 (which keeps most of Vista's Aero themes, but does away with a bunch of animations and stuff)

My PC is a Core2Duo 3.0ghz with 2gigs of DDR3 Ram and I'm running RAID 0 with 2 SATA drives, so while I don't have the fastest system out there, it should have enough muscle to run Vista faster than this.
 
That's odd. I was expecting tonnes of compatibility issues with 7 because I decided to try out the 64-bit version on my previously Vista 32-bit PC, but so far I have had absolutely no compatibility problems on the hardware or software front, which is a very pleasant surprise.
 
Your RAM would be bottlenecking you there, GalaxyX. Vista is snappy on this machine and the installation is 2yrs old without nearly as much CPU or HDD grunt as your own, but with 4GB of RAM.
 
Hey man, I still love the OS though. The slowness is only a little bit, and doesn't bother me for everyday stuff.

As long as you disable a bunch of useless stuff, it makes a huge difference in speed.
 
Bummer to hear that. I hope that gets worked out before the final release.

I have yet to run into an issue with 7, 64-bit, on my machine. I remote into work with citrix and that works fine as does everything else so far (I control a good chuck of my house with my PC).

Aside from the incompatibility, did you have any stability or other issues for the programs that did work (random lock ups, weird interfaces issues, etc.)? I had a little bump with adobe for a while but an upgrade seemed to fix it. Also, on a pure interface level, I have noticed that on rare occasion there is a glitch with the task bar in that when a group of thumb nail widows are displayed for a program (by hovering the mouse over the task bar icon for the group I want), occasionally when I select one, it won’t come up and I have to minimize every window on top of it to get access. It does not happen much, but is annoying when it does.

Those minor issues aside, so far I like 7.
 
Had a Mac and was happy when the day came that I could have both. I still have found memories of the Mac, but got tired of having to switch to a PC to run programs I couldn't run on the Mac platform. One day I realized I never really had to switch from the PC to run something on Mac that I couldn't run on the PC.
 
PurpleBuddha said:
Bummer to hear that. I hope that gets worked out before the final release.

I have yet to run into an issue with 7, 64-bit, on my machine. I remote into work with citrix and that works fine as does everything else so far (I control a good chuck of my house with my PC).

Aside from the incompatibility, did you have any stability or other issues for the programs that did work (random lock ups, weird interfaces issues, etc.)? I had a little bump with adobe for a while but an upgrade seemed to fix it. Also, on a pure interface level, I have noticed that on rare occasion there is a glitch with the task bar in that when a group of thumb nail widows are displayed for a program (by hovering the mouse over the task bar icon for the group I want), occasionally when I select one, it won’t come up and I have to minimize every window on top of it to get access. It does not happen much, but is annoying when it does.

Those minor issues aside, so far I like 7.
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On my copy of Win7 64bit, I have a reboot crash I can't figure out when my PC goes to sleep. But, turning off sleep and just having the monitor shut off after a while bypasses the issue. that is the only issue I have with Win7
 
QuasarVM said:
XP still has not been beaten on the PC.
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As of today, you are correct. However, I'd argue Win7 RC1 equals XP, and by RTM, should officially surpass it.

The XP kernel does not handle 64 bit architecture well, evidenced by the dismal failure of XPx64. Also, XP is not great at handling multi-core processes and applications. So, the OS has already effectively reached it's end-of-life, just on the basis of not truly supporting all new hardware.

Vista technically resolves those issues, but the bloat of the OS is ridiculous. Win7 chops the kernel size down to almost XP size, so the real world performance already equals XP in every benchmark I've seen. Throw in DX11 with OpenCL support, and XP will be blown away.
 
^^ I agree.

Win 7 ran lightning fast on my machine. There just isn't enough support for it at the moment. I assume once it's fully released that will change though, at which time it will definitely be a consideration.
 
Foley0402 said:
QuasarVM said:
XP still has not been beaten on the PC.
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As of today, you are correct. However, I'd argue Win7 RC1 equals XP, and by RTM, should officially surpass it.

The XP kernel does not handle 64 bit architecture well, evidenced by the dismal failure of XPx64. Also, XP is not great at handling multi-core processes and applications. So, the OS has already effectively reached it's end-of-life, just on the basis of not truly supporting all new hardware.

Vista technically resolves those issues, but the bloat of the OS is ridiculous. Win7 chops the kernel size down to almost XP size, so the real world performance already equals XP in every benchmark I've seen. Throw in DX11 with OpenCL support, and XP will be blown away.
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Hmmm...well, we'll see.

I'm one of those who sits back and waits for awhile to get the bugs shaken out of the "latest and greatest" before I jump into the pool.

I know plenty of people who were burned by Vista and regretted going to it.

The next one will have to be road tested a bit before I jump in -- and as Galaxy says, I'll have to see how much support there is for it as well.
 
I tried 7 out, installed it on a second hard-drive so I could boot either OS (other being Vista) and gave up when I couldn't figure out how to access/save my files (which were on the Vista drive).
There were also some small annoyances with 7, but if I'd stuck with it maybe I'd've liked it more. That said, I did find it faster than Vista for sure. Booting up especially.
 
I love Win 7 but I've had no prob with Vista. I do have 3GB of PC6400 ram though.

RAMA
 
The only compatablity issues I had where with USB or chipset drivers for an Asus MOBO. I could not get a USB wireless card to work on it. It worked fine on my PC so I knew the adapter worked on Win7. I wasn't able to find updated drivers. It's older hardware so I doubt Asus or the makers of that chipset will update the drivers.
 
Garrovick said:
Despite the MAC spam in this thread..

Windows 7 on 22 Oct 2009

The continuing advance of the OS continues.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31068292/

And NO Steve Jobs, "no computer under 1000 dollars" tax required.
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Mac spam? All three posts were relevant to the conversation.

I paid far, far less than $1000 for my iMac and I run dual boot Mac OS 10.5 and Windows 7 flawlessly. I've used Ubuntu Linux in the past and it's a fine OS, but it's not a solid home user OS yet. It still has a ways to go. Whatever chip on your shoulder you have about Mac, I suggest you drop it in this thread, as no one is being belligerent to anyone else about their choice of OS.

J.
 
Foley0402 said:
QuasarVM said:
XP still has not been beaten on the PC.
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As of today, you are correct. However, I'd argue Win7 RC1 equals XP, and by RTM, should officially surpass it.
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Microsoft have confirmed that October 22 is the release date for Windows 7.

The RTM will go out to manufactures/OEMs in July. This is consistent with the 3 months the OEMs generally take to prepare new system images for them to have ready to roll when MS gives the okay for sales.

And for those who also do work with servers, Windows Server 2008 R2 is going to be released around the same time. R2 is supposed to have close integration with Windows 7.
 
QuasarVM said:
XP still has not been beaten on the PC.
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I think you're forgetting that magnificent operating system ME. ;)

Seriously though, XP wasn't all that great at launch and it only became a great OS with the release of SP2, before that it was buggy and horribly insecure. If we are judging XP at launch against 7 at launch then (judging by the RC) 7 is going to win hands down.

RegentWorf said:
I tried 7 out, installed it on a second hard-drive so I could boot either OS (other being Vista) and gave up when I couldn't figure out how to access/save my files (which were on the Vista drive).
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I had a similar problem with the beta, I had to go into disk management and assign a drive letter for the Vista partition before it would show up in explorer. I don't think I had that problem with the RC though.
 
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