GNU/Linux openSUSE 10.3 Released!

[GodThingFormerly]

http://www.opensuse.org/

Have any of the Linuxoids here installed it yet? My copy is downloading via BitTorrent - currently at a whopping 18 KB/s - even as I type.

TGT

 

[Deleted 2]

Having just spent 7 months getting increasingly annoyed with OpenSuSE at my workplace, I'm somewhat uninterested.

Although I've been told by a SuSE aficionado that the SuSE people have removed the atrocious Zen Management Daemon, and that package management no longer takes five minutes just to initialise. (Apparently it's more like four minutes now)

 

[GodThingFormerly]

Zero Hour said:
Having just spent 7 months getting increasingly annoyed with OpenSuSE at my workplace, I'm somewhat uninterested.

What kind of dipshit company uses openSUSE instead of SUSE Enterprise Server/Desktop? Novell has made it painfully clear on numerous occasions that oS is nothing more than an alpha testbed for their commercial releases.

Although I've been told by a SuSE aficionado that the SuSE people have removed the atrocious Zen Management Daemon, and that package management no longer takes five minutes just to initialise. (Apparently it's more like four minutes now)

Yes, but I'm a crack whore when it comes to brand loyalty, even when the brand in question leaves me a mutilated corpse rotting in some Tenderloin dumpster a la SuSE 10.1 Pro and its broken package management system from hell.

TGT

 

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The God Thing said:

Zero Hour said:
Having just spent 7 months getting increasingly annoyed with OpenSuSE at my workplace, I'm somewhat uninterested.

What kind of dipshit company uses openSUSE instead of SUSE Enterprise Server/Desktop? Novell has made it painfully clear on numerous occasions that oS is nothing more than an alpha testbed for their commercial releases.

Companies without any kind of clear IT policy. I made some obligatory complaining noises, they dismissed them, so it's not my problem anymore. But I've since come to realise that practices like these are rather common, at least in the financial sector.

 

[Daedalus12]

I can't be bothered to try out another distribution. Somebody would have to wipe gentoo from the timeline for me to do so again. Really what is the point? It's the same shit just a different way of installing it.

 

[Mallory]

I'll have to see if I can con one of our sysadmin types into downloading, installing and test-driving it. I'll be interested in what his review is like.

 

[Twilight]

Downloaded and installed it on my "play around" machine. SIGH, still can't connect to the internet. Beautiful distro, though...I love openSUSE.

I've had the internet problem with these distros:

Fedora 7
Fedora Core 6
Ubuntu (Feisty Fawn)


Strangely, it works perfectly with Elive Gem (basically Debian with enlightenment 17 instead of gnome or KDE)


It's an old Davicom ethernet adapter (5+ years). I've heard rumors (through friends and google) that it's an issue with Tulip....you apparently need to force dmfe for the card to keep its DHCP assigned IP address.

 

[Deleted 2]

Open a terminal, and give the command 'lsmod'

If the dmfe module isn't listed, try

modprobe dmfe debug=1

as root,
and see if you can acquire a dhcp lease after that.

If it is loaded, try removing it with modprobe -r dmfe, before giving the above command again.

 

[Twilight]

Zero Hour said:
Open a terminal, and give the command 'lsmod'

If the dmfe module isn't listed, try

modprobe dmfe debug=1

as root,
and see if you can acquire a dhcp lease after that.

If it is loaded, try removing it with modprobe -r dmfe, before giving the above command again.

that worked!!!

THANK you! I tried something similar (blacklisted Tulip, forced dmfe startup), but I hadn't tried removing then adding with debug=1.

You rock! :thumbsup:

 

[Deleted 2]

^ Actually, it's very odd that your approach didn't work. (And your approach is much better, since it'll work for every subsequent reboot)

I suspect the tulip drivers may be added to the initrd (initial ram disk, an image that allows Linux to boot in case the computer in question is not supposed to boot from hard disk in the conventional way). That would prevent the dmfe drivers from attaching later, disregarding the hotplug blacklists.

IIRC, SuSE allows you to fine-tune initrd settings in /etc/sysconfig/initrd.conf (or something similar). This should allow you to specify which drivers to use for the ram disk.

 

[Twilight]

^ You're right on, it was just me being stupid.

I was forcing dmfe, but I also didn't see that it was on the blacklist. So I was blacklisting it while insisting that it starts.

Fixed now. Works great.

Thanks for your help! This has been a problem I've been having with tons of distros - good to know that the problem was just my ancient ethernet card being incompatible - an easy fix that wasn't immediately obvious (I originally thought it was an IPv6 problem with my router.)