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Girls basketball team wins 100-0; coach fired.

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DALLAS -- The coach of a Texas high school basketball team that beat another team 100-0 was fired Sunday, the same day he sent an e-mail to a newspaper saying he will not apologize "for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity."

On its Web site last week, the Covenant School of Dallas, a private Christian school, posted a statement regretting the outcome of its Jan. 13 shutout win over Dallas Academy. "It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened. This clearly does not reflect a Christlike and honorable approach to competition," said the statement, signed by Kyle Queal, head of school, and board chair Todd Doshier.

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"In response to the statement posted on The Covenant School Web site, I do not agree with the apology or the notion that the Covenant School girls basketball team should feel embarrassed or ashamed," Grimes wrote in the e-mail, according to the newspaper. "We played the game as it was meant to be played. My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity."

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A parent who attended the game said Covenant continued to make 3-pointers -- even in the fourth quarter. She praised the Covenant players but said spectators and an assistant coach were cheering wildly as their team edged closer to 100 points.

Covenant was up 59-0 at halftime.

Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the past four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

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They issued an apology for wiping the floor with a team that has probably the longest losing streak in the history of anything that can be won, then fired the coach?

IT'S PC GONE MAD I TELL YOU! :p People need to know how to win and lose, otherwise, what's the point of trying to achieve anything? Regardless of "learning differences".

If they found it so embarrassing (as I imagine you do after four seasons), wouldn't they be better off withdrawing the Dallas Academy team from the league to save them from becoming completely depressed by it?
 
Dallas Academy needs to increase their recruiting budget. Surely they can find 5 nice, tall, coordinated girls with learning difficulties. Does Michael Jordan have any kids?
 
^has a son, dunno about daughters...

Anyway, said this in the TNZ version of this thread, but this PC crap disgusts me. A complete non-story, and all the wrong people are being painted to look bad.

First off, all the reports, the media, etc are painting the losers to be disabled kids, mentally challanged, and the like. They have ADD, ADHD, dyslexia, and the like. That's it. Hell, 2 girls on the WINNING team have said they also are treated for ADD. That kills the 'able-bodied kids beating on the handicapped' angle to the story.

The coach was certainly a little bit of a dick in going for an even 100 points. And it's clear he was, because they didn't score a single point in the last 4 minutes, once they got to 100 even. On the other hand, what should he do, when playing a team that is that terrible? He went up 25-0 almost immediately, and started playing his 2nd string (should be noted there were 8 girls on his team as well). What else do you do, really? Intentionally play bad defense? Take half-court shots only? They were pressing to get to 100, which is a dick thing, but from a sportmanship standpoint, are the losers going to feel better if the other team lays down? If they pass until the shot clock is dead every time, and then just throw the ball up? No. You play your game, and see if the other team can stop you. Worst case, the losers should respect you more than if you lay down and taunt them by playing bad on purpose, or just run passing drills on them.

The "fault" here is with the losing team. The athletic director (who is also their coach) shouldn't be putting them in this division if they can't compete. And it is obvious they can't. If there isn't a division bad enough, they need to disband the girls' team. And maybe not schedule games against teams in contention for a state title! These girls haven't won in over 4 years! Their opponents average 60 points a game, give or take. Know how many THEY average? 4.5 points. Yep, 4.5.

Would it have been better if the team won 80-6? 59-2? Where's the line where it's ok? Those scores are pretty representative of other current losses by this team, and THOSE coaches weren't fired. Nor did they have to appologize for the win. Hell, in this case, the winners were even guilted into FORFEITING the game! WTF is that?

Maybe I'm missing an angle, but this story is complete crap from my POV. You've now got the losing team doing the talk show circuit, all the morning news shows, etc. Being invited to NBA games, cash donations for the school, etc. We're celebrating losing, while making the winners look like crap for no reason. And the headmaster and Athletic Director for the losing school are taking advantage of the kids.

And if they are getting all of this stuff, what stops the next crappy team from just laying down against a good opponent? If i was going to lose 80-10 no matter what, and knew that 100-0 instead would get me on national TV, plus other cash and prizes, wouldn't you take a dive?
 
^While I agree with some of what you say, there are a few disturbing things about the story that justify firing the coach.

First, there was no need to get to 100 points, yet clearly hitting the century mark was the winning team's goal. To maximize the opponents' humiliation, 100 points and a shutout was the objective. How very unnecessary.

Second, the bench of the winning team was going wild with enthusiasm as the score continued to run up toward 100 points in the 2nd half. That's just poor sportsmanship. The coach could have insisted that players keep their cool.

Third, the coach's quotes following the game revealed his tremendous arrogance and lack of sportsmanship. The guy's an ass and is certainly no role model for his kids.
 
^none of those things are "disturbing".

100 points and a shutout is humiliating, true. Then again, when you play a team that averages 4.5 points per game, what else is there for a goal going into the game? Why not have the other team forfeit before you start if you're not allowed to try? 100-0 is a nice round number, but is it more humiliating than their last couple games, with average 65-4 scores? Suppose, failing all else, that scoring 100 points in a women's high school basketball game would at least be a rare milestone.

What should the winning team do? Hang their head in shame. Sit with no expression as they destroy a team? It's not NICE, definitely. Not disturbing, though. It's an athletic competition. If I played Kobe 1-1, the score would be similar. I'd rather have him put in effort, though, rather than just put 40 points up on me, and then let me put points on the board so I feel good.

The coach was a bit of a dick, but still, what should he have done? That team just didn't belong competing with the schools in the division it's in. The Losing coach/atheltic director has something to answer for, not the winners...
 
but when it's 100% clear that there is no opponent (and 59-0 at the half says that), why isn't a certain amount of cheering for your own team appropriate, as they go for a record-setting (I assume) goal? And the difference between cheering for your team and taunting is a matter of who it is directed to. As long as they were only cheering for when their players did something good, and it wasn't directed at the other team, it's not taunting.

People cheer for Tiger Woods, even when he completely dominates opponents. Are you not allowed to cheer when your team scores a touchdown, even if you're up by 20 points? I cheered for the Pats last year, even when they were up bigtime. When Kobe put up 81 points by himself, was his team cheering? Maybe bad example, as his team doesn't really like him, but the point is the same. ;)

At some point, instead of cheering for your team to win, it just became rooting them on to try and hit 100 points. If the other team couldn't do ANYTHING, and averages 4.5 points per game, it's not the winners' problem, it's the losing team itself. Or their coach/athletic director for putting them in a league they can't even BEGIN to compete in.
 
Scout101 said:
The "fault" here is with the losing team. The athletic director (who is also their coach) shouldn't be putting them in this division if they can't compete. And it is obvious they can't. If there isn't a division bad enough, they need to disband the girls' team. And maybe not schedule games against teams in contention for a state title! These girls haven't won in over 4 years! Their opponents average 60 points a game, give or take. Know how many THEY average? 4.5 points. Yep, 4.5.
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Yep. They had to know that the game was a complete mismatch, so why schedule it in the first place? I don't know how school athletics work in Texas, but around here, schools are pretty much grouped by size when determining divisions. And schools with small enrollments will often combine with neighboring districts if their enrollment is too small to field a team (which results in some long, hyphenated team names).

I kind of feel bad for the girls on the winning team. They knew going in that they were going to win big, and were put in kind of a difficult position. The only way to not look like they were running up the score would have been to play way below their ability, and that wouldn't have been fair to them. Players want to excel; forcing them to sandbag it would have been a disservice to them.
 
Right. If they were worried about hurting feelings, they'd have cancelled that game in advance. They knew there were going to win, and going by recent scores of the losing team, the score was going to be at least 60 or 70 to about 5. Why play that game? Gotta play badly or half-assed in order to not hurt feelings? Really? I know it's just girls' basketball, but still, there is a bit of competitiveness in there, right?

Options are to lay down and half-ass it, skip the game entirely, or just play your game and let the chips fall. No real good option there.

And if they good team asks for a forfeit in advance, is that any less demoralizing to the losers? They're so bad the team didn't want to waste time with them?
 
What were they supposed to do? Intentionally travel every five seconds? Throw the ball out of bounds every chance? Hold it until the shot clock ran out 5000 times?
 
Starbreaker said:
What were they supposed to do? Intentionally travel every five seconds? Throw the ball out of bounds every chance? Hold it until the shot clock ran out 5000 times?
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I keep on thinking they could have just played half court basketball and shot it in their own net. It would be still a disservice, but it's helping the other team at least get on the scoreboard.

I think the athletic director who put the losing team in that position should have been the one fired. That game shouldn't have been scheduled, and it puts the winning team in a precarious position. I don't like it when this coach, who did have some problems sure, was the scapegoat of it all.
 
My favorite part of this whole story is that the kids have moved on. The winners and the losers. They shrugged it off, laughed and got on with their lives. That's a great story and a better moral. Shit happens, and you pick yourself off the mat and get back in. Now, this is just the guilt of a few adults trying to make an issue out of something where there clearly wasn't.


-nobody
 
Wow!

100-0 :wtf:

I didn't think shutouts were possible in basketball at any level!

Bees-R!

I guess if that seemingly statistically improbable event can occur, then a 7-9 NFL ballclub making the playoffs as a wildcard & then going all the way to a SuperBowl Championship ain't that crazy or far-fetched huh:D

Of the 2, 7-9ers making the PS & then winning the SB would seem more probable yes:confused:

Still a 100-zip basketball contest:wtf:

Bee-zahr yet :cool:

This 100-0 game is an immense historical, probabilistic & statistical achievement for BOTH teams:hugegrin:

Statisticians & quantum physicists should appreciate this 100-0 game.

What are the odds?

Seriously!

An intriguing fascinating :vulcan: outcome to say the least:bolian:
 
I must be missing something. Is this real? The coach was fired because his team won too well? Twat?!
 
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