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GET THE PUCK OUTTA HERE!

MontgomeryScott

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The Next Generation started the (in my opinion, unfortunate) trend of every series revolving around some alien race. In TNG it was Q, which made the mistake of making a "Puck" into a central and dangerous character rather than a simple creator of harmless mischief-- not only does Q end up introducing the Borg to the Federation, but he even endangers all humanity at the end. (And like the Puck in Shakespeare, he makes an ass of Picard).

This led to the "Prophets" or "wormhole aliens" at the center of DS9, with the entire series doing nothing to learn anything about or from them; and of course Voyager had "The Caretaker," while of course Enterprise had the Suliban and "Cold War" aliens.

I have to say that goofy aliens don't relate much to the original premise of "boldly going where no man has gone before--" particularly since Q was a literal clean-lift of Trelane, who was simply an immature child-alien; but ironically, Q accuses humanity of being "a dangerous savage child-race" (right before he proves to be little more an outright immature sadist himself).

Does anyone know about the basis of this obsession with mysterious but inexplicable aliens? Some people seemed to like the thing with Q in TNG, but after that it just got real old, real fast, as Star Trek hit rock bottom when the "Enterprise" finally got cancelled.

In TOS, advanced alien-races were typically wise and profound, as with the Organians or Trelane's parents; meanwhile others tended to have destroyed themselves when they became too powerful beyong their wisdom (as with Sargon or the Talosians-- or indeed, Earth in WWIII, leading to the Prime Directive).
However as I've alluded elsewhere, the franchise seemed to have "jumped the shark" when it began revolving around inexplicably odd super-races that were neither especially wise nor profound, but simply troublesome.
 
Does anyone know about the basis of this obsession with mysterious but inexplicable aliens?

They are interesting. They highlight elements of humanity you don't see when just rubbing humans up against humans. They challenge our assumptions that our ethics and morality is something to be striven for by everyone.

In TOS, advanced alien-races were typically wise and profound, as with the Organians or Trelane's parents; meanwhile others tended to have destroyed themselves when they became too powerful beyong their wisdom (as with Sargon or the Talosians-- or indeed, Earth in WWIII, leading to the Prime Directive).
However as I've alluded elsewhere, the franchise seemed to have "jumped the shark" when it began revolving around inexplicably odd super-races that were neither especially wise nor profound, but simply troublesome.
Kind of like humans themselves. Isn't that what Kirk went out there looking for, new races and civilizations? That's what they found, species evolved in all different directions with their OWN definitions of "profound". Klingons went from being knee jerk bad guys to a complex society whose agendas and aspirations clashed with humans and led both species to re-evaluate what their relationship with difference should be.
 
I'd hardly say Voyager "revolved" around the Caretaker alien. He may have been the reason they were in the Delta Quadrant, but he was hardly in it! (Note - I've only watched seasons 1-2 so correct me if he comes back later).

Likewise, do 10 episodes out of 178 count as "revolving around" for Q in TNG? (as for the irony of Q, I believe this was intended).

Or have I misunderstood your point?
 
The Next Generation started the (in my opinion, unfortunate) trend of every series revolving around some alien race. In TNG it was Q, which made the mistake of making a "Puck" into a central and dangerous character rather than a simple creator of harmless mischief-- not only does Q end up introducing the Borg to the Federation, but he even endangers all humanity at the end. (And like the Puck in Shakespeare, he makes an ass of Picard).

As already mentioned, Q was hardly in TNG overall.

This led to the "Prophets" or "wormhole aliens" at the center of DS9, with the entire series doing nothing to learn anything about or from them;

What could be learned aside from them bein' a higher intelligence that had no concept of time and a special interest in Benjamin Sisko?

and of course Voyager had "The Caretaker,"

Which was in one episode, the series pilot. The Caretaker's mate was seen in another, and that was it for the series, not countin' 'The Voyager Conspiracy,' where Seven of Nine overanalyzed Janeway's actions while in the Delta Quadrant.

while of course Enterprise had the Suliban and "Cold War" aliens.

Who were used for the first two, of four, seasons as the main villians.
 
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