George Lucas's ideas for Episodes 7-9

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  1. DarKush

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    Oh joy, a whole trilogy about microscopic creatures that control "The Force." :rolleyes:

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    So, it would have been controversial. How is that any different than what we have right now?
     
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    :guffaw:Well played.

    I'm always amused by the idea that any of the new directors set out to ruin Star Wars or Disney isn't listening to the fans, when we have Lucas right there going "fans are not going to like it" and he knows it and is still doing it. For me, this pretty much undermines the entire argument that listening to the fans obviously is the way Star Wars has always gone. No, it hasn't. Empire Strikes back was completely new way of approaching the story and the characters, and certainly had a different tone that Star Wars did. TPM and AOTC were also departures in terms of storytelling style from the OT, and all of these are deliberate choices.

    So, while I appreciate Lucas' thoughts on the story of SW and were it could go, and would be fascinated to see the ideas born out, I'm not going to pretend that this isn't somehow less controversial that the current ST just because Lucas.
     
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    I would have much preferred to see this come to pass than The Last Jedi.
    Better an entire trilogy written about parasitic single celled organisms than a single film written by one.
     
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    I'm guessing these were his ideas before he started writing the pitch for Disney, because quite a few of his ideas from those pitches made it into Episode 7 and 8.

    Did Rian Johnson/JJ/KK kill your dog? Because you certainly act like they did.

    Do you need to complain about it in every single thread about the movies?
     
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    This stuff with the Whills that Lucas describes in the interview sounds more like it would be suited to the animated shows than the feature films. In Clone Wars, we got a lot of interesting exploration of "The Force," and this kind of thing would have been right at home in that setting.

    And I have just about had it with the anti-Last Jedi nay-saying that keeps popping up in every single thread around here. :rolleyes:

    Lucas himself
    said TLJ was 'beautifully made.' :shrug:

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    If you like that idea I can send you some notes I wrote while high on LSD. It seems close to Lucas' description and probably makes as much sense.
     
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    Not much, but we'd have a big half-baked, inconsistent, plot hole-driven, made up as it goes along trilogy about meddling chlorines or whatever creating lots of sith lords - complete with tons of stilted dialogue - as opposed to a big half-baked, inconsistent, plot hole-driven, made up as it goes along trilogy about some rebels resistance people who keep saying "rebels" but otherwise have more interesting dialogue. Only without the sister always frenching the brother despite not knowing it yet admitting later on she always knew about him. (eww, and people think the Disney sequels have problems with lack of predefined story?!! And, yes, as 1977's entry never had "episode IV" tacked on until 1980 (or 81) in a re-release, all the bits and pieces Lucas originally had were more likely brainstormed ideas left to the side as opposed to being part of a grand 9 or 12000-part saga.)

    But, yeah, the notion of Episode VII: Attack of the Swimming Pools and the new baddies being created (and of a sect whose name is an unsubtle anagram of (regarding some sort of high school sophomoric, juvenile humor)) would at least have been genuinely original instead of a half-hamfisted remake that relies solely on nostalgia and fanservice known as "The Force Awakens".

    Then again, if the proposed ideas were like Ep I, then we'd see Darth Maul or an equally awesome creation for maybe 5 or 10 minutes and then quickly dispatched after 2 hours of what amounts to a $15 substitute for an insomnia pill that won't be even remotely memorable. And then 20 years later brought back on screen in a spinoff flick with zero explanation since apparently even the most casual of fans now have to keep up with every comic, novel, TV show, etc, to know how Maul survived to show up in the movie, and one would think that if the main movie series does something big, then the movie series should address it instead of letting some side order cartoon explain it away that almost nobody is going to see or get wind of.
    (I like the fan-made notion that Qi'ra and Maul did the nasty and their offspring is Rey. That's cool and needs to be brought up in the movie series, there are opportunities in any number of ways...)

    TLJ isn't perfect, but it's refreshing in taking some actual risks and doing different things. Even if some of them are inversions of the tropes being used (DJ = coin flip of Han, gravitated toward the evil side, and he needs to make a return because he's simply awesome and part of an elaborate trap the First Order sprang on the heroes.) And it was beautifully made. But after seeing the deleted/alternate scenes, most of those needed to stay and be sent off as a 3 hour film if need be. The cuts did a lot more than even I had expected...
     
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    Nobody cares what he says. Unless he is going to make another film. Then everybody thinks it would have been better than what we got currently.

    Grass is always greener and all that...
     
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    Isn't Maul missing something that would be required for that to happen?
     
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    Um...

    Even so, Maul died something like sixteen years before Rey was born. And while I don't put it past Qi'ra, she's be something like 45 when Rey is born.
     
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    Just get someone else to write the dialogue and direct the actors and it probably would have been great.
     
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    I'm more of a cat person. I have two big gray ones named Lucas and Marcus; But I usually just call them Luke and Mark.
    Bringing pets into this will only make me resent Johnson more.